Asking for Majesty's neck profile detail?

[ifac8]

1. Do anybody know the neck thickness and the neck sharp of the Majesty?

2. Also, as the neck wood is Mahogany which is not a hard wood, is the truss rod thicker than the normal truss rod? Most Gibson guitars have the small truss rod and that's why the Gibson guitars' neck have less resistance to the weather change.

 

[decreebass]

Might have to call EBMM for the exact answers to those questions, I'm afraid. I can say, though, as a loud & proud owner of the 7-string Maj, the neck is not as thin as the JPXI (which is ridiculously thin) but it's thinner than most necks. Ultimately, it's one of the most comfortable necks I've ever played. If I had to venture a guess, I'd say it's like a really soft "C" shape or maybe soft/shallow "D".

Here's a couple shots of the neck on mine - should give you a good idea:

 

[KEOKI]

I like that color 'That Guy'. Mine is black. ;-). I am trying to decide what kind of BFR Majesty I would prefer hanging on the wall in my studio.

 

[QuietSpike]

That Guy showing off that paint more than the neck. Beautiful.

 

[ifac8]

Actually, my most concern is the strength of the neck. I have a jem555 guitar with a thin neck and it is very sensitive to the weather change. It always bows up or back in summer and winter. Someone told me that it is not just because of the thin neck, it is also because the quality of wood and truss rod are not top of line.

Anyway, Does anybody can share the experiences of the neck strength of Majesty or other JP models? Or Does anybody have good experiences with thin neck?

 

[KEOKI]

I have always preferred thin necks. And I go way back. But I try to never expose my instruments to temperature extremes regardless of the season. The guitar does not go in the trunk, it rides with me.

 

[fbecir]

Hello

I don't own a JP guitar but I know a guy called John Petrucci who is touring the world with his JP guitars, thus I presume the necks are strong enough !
If you want to have a neck that never moves, the only solution is to buy a neck with carbon fiber rods (Vigier for instance). A 100% wood neck will always move with temperature and humidity changes. But with a Music Man it is very easy to adjust the truss rod, thanks to the truss rod wheel.

 

[t_rod]

Hello

I don't own a JP guitar but I know a guy called John Petrucci who is touring the world with his JP guitars, thus I presume the necks are strong enough !
If you want to have a neck that never moves, the only solution is to buy a neck with carbon fiber rods (Vigier for instance). A 100% wood neck will always move with temperature and humidity changes. But with a Music Man it is very easy to adjust the truss rod, thanks to the truss rod wheel.

+1
Takes 5 seconds to adjust for any changes that may happen with the truss rod wheel.

 

[yan12]

Hello

I don't own a JP guitar but I know a guy called John Petrucci who is touring the world with his JP guitars, thus I presume the necks are strong enough !
If you want to have a neck that never moves, the only solution is to buy a neck with carbon fiber rods (Vigier for instance). A 100% wood neck will always move with temperature and humidity changes. But with a Music Man it is very easy to adjust the truss rod, thanks to the truss rod wheel.

I live in Colorado and it is very dry with wild temp changes. The other type of necks that don't move are laminates. I built my own 3 pc roasted maple neck in 1999 and it is straighter than straight. Every single time I take it out and look at it I am amazed it has never moved. I have come to think laminates are awesome especially on 7 or more strings or basses.

 

[uOpt]

Mahogany is soft?

How are all the Les Pauls with (thin) 60s profile holding up?

 

[DrKev]

I know people who say their mahogany neck guitars need less truss rod adjustments than their maple neck guitars. And I know people who say the exact opposite! So on average I say they are all about the same (except for roasted maple, which is more resistant than any of them).

Obviously thin necks will move a little more than fat necks but that what truss rods are for and why Music Man truss rod wheels are such a joy.

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

Me too, best color

I think XI neck wins big time (thinnest, flattest, fastest 7 string neck out)

 

[ifac8]

Mahogany is soft?

How are all the Les Pauls with (thin) 60s profile holding up?

My friend who works in a very small music store said mahogany is in general softer than maple. He finds that both prs custom 24 and gibson Les Pauls have mahogany neck but they found that the prs necks are usually stronger. This is because most Les Pauls use the slim truss rod. However, his store only sell fender, gibson and prs; and he doesn't have much information about music man guitars.

I couldn't found much information about the truss rods on the web and I still couldn't confirm what my friend said is correct. Anyway, please keep sharing the experiences of the thin neck or JP models. Thank You All!

 

[uOpt]

Whether the truss rod is slim or not doesn't play a role. It's not a passive thing just sitting there, it is under tension.

 

[DrKev]

True, and when I worked for a music store I inspected 250 Gibsons that arrived in 7 shipping palettes. With the other jobs I was doing it took 5 weeks to get through them all. The guitars had been shipped from the US across the Atlantic to Amsterdam, then by road to Paris, and then they sat in my warehouse. And the weather changed quite a lot over the 5 weeks that I had them. The setup on those guitars was very impressive - about as consistent as Music Man. That would not be possible if the necks were unstable or more sensitive to weather conditions.

And in 25 years I have never heard that Gibsons are more prone o changes than any other guitar. I'm gonna call "nonesense" on what ifac's friend is saying.

 

[QuietSpike]

I've had my les paul over 20 years and have adjusted the truss rod maybe two-three times. But my setup on that guitar never changes.

I've had an ibanez jem with the razor thin neck for 7 years, and adjusted the rod once when I changed string gauge.

I've had my JP12 a few months, again- razor thin neck, and it needed a slight truss adjustment when it arrived, and then some fine tuning after that to get it the way I wanted it, but that's it. I adjust this one more than my others, but it is so darn easy with the wheel. if the others were this easy, they'd get tinkered with more as well.

The "thin necks aren't strong" argument is crapola. My guitars have been all over the world with me and never had a problem. My thin neck guitars have been to freezing, dry cold and to hot, humid caribbean and been fine. Mine ride in the trunk of cars and jets... No problems.

If you prefer thin necks, then don't fret (pun intended). Get what you want, you'll be fine.

 

[uOpt]

The "thin necks aren't strong" argument is crapola. My guitars have been all over the world with me and never had a problem. My thin neck guitars have been to freezing, dry cold and to hot, humid caribbean and been fine. Mine ride in the trunk of cars and jets... No problems.

I think it is even deeper than that.

The way I see it a good guitar is really hanging in the balance between the strings and a comparably flexible neck, a neck that is flexible but held in the correct position by a proper truss rod.

If ultimate stiff necks were the goal here we would all play Kramer aluminium necks today.

 

[decreebass]

It really is a beautiful paint job- it's kinda sad that the pics you normally see just make it look like a sort of off-green - like on Sweetwater's site.

But you can kinda get a feel of neck shape and thickness by the pics; of course, it's still no substitute for having your hands on the real thing.

And as far as strength, it's perfectly fine. I adjust mine occasionally, but it's only 'cause I like my action stupid-low so ANY slight change in climate will affect the neck. Given that, I've probably only adjusted mine twice since I've owned it, but it's super easy, like adding having to tune an extra string - not like on some guitars that you gotta bust out the allen wrench and a screwdriver.

And while mahogany might be 'softer' than maple, it's still a hardwood. You've got NOTHING to worry about if you buy yourself a nice little Maj

 

[decreebass]

I think it is even deeper than that.

The way I see it a good guitar is really hanging in the balance between the strings and a comparably flexible neck, a neck that is flexible but held in the correct position by a proper truss rod.

If ultimate stiff necks were the goal here we would all play Kramer aluminium necks today.

Brilliant point!