Axis (Floyd) will not return in tune

[mikeller]

I am having some trouble getting my Axis with the floyd to return in tune - it always returns sharp by a few cents - almost on every string. If I tug the strings slightly, they return to proper pitch. It has recently been pro-set up and looks to be very correct.

It is my first floyd equipped guitar ever so I have no experience. Is it recommended or desirable to put some 3&1 oil or nut sauce on the bridge saddles where the strings move?

Thanks

 

[bbake1]

The bridge is set to rest on the body and not floating, correct? Try a new set of strings. Make sure the lock nut blocks are in the correct position and tightened down (don't strip them out though). Increase spring tension slightly so the bridge is in contact with the body. There are tons of threads here on locking trem set ups, but those are few places to try first.

 

[ScoobySteve]

It's a floyd rose, they are floating trems. I'm sorry I'm having trouble understanding your question. You're saying you're having trouble getting it to get back into tune? Do you mean after you dive and it doesn't return back in tune?

Or are you saying after a string change, or re-intonating you can't seem to get it to stay in tune?

 

[mikeller]

Sorry I wasnt more clear - yes, after I use the trem it comes back sharp. The bridge is resting on the body, nearly anyhow - Maybe a 1/64 raise on the frontside of the bridge, backside does rest.

 

[larz]

I also had the same problem with my ibanez JEM 7v, which also has floyd.
I solved the problem by adjusting the screws that holding springs.

Step 1:
Check to see if the base plate is sitting parallel with the top surface of the guitar. If it seems to be tilted forward, toward the pickups, then you need to tighten the springs and retune the guitar and check the tilt again. If it is tilted back toward the body of the guitar loosen the springs and retune the guitar. Repeat this procedure until the bridge sits level.

Step 2:
Make sure the nut is attached securely by tightening the nut attachment screws. This is critical for tuning stability.

Step 3:
Make sure the string clamps at the nut and bridge are very tight.

Step 4:
Make sure the saddle intonation screws are tight.

copied from this link

 

[TonyEVH5150]

Sounds like it may be an issue of the trem springs needing a little tightening. The trem should be resting flush against the body, as the Axis is not set to float.

Good tips Larz . . . .

Also, feel free to give CS a call on Monday if these don't help.

 

[mikeller]

Here is a picture of how the bridge is setting. I have had it pro-set up just recently however I still question if it correct. Should the plate be resting completely on the body?

BTW - I use 3 springs.

 

[Astrofreq]

All strings come back sharp or just one? Could need to posts for the trem to pivot on.

 

[mikeller]

Every string except the low e - it comes back about correct. They only come back a few cents off, as checked by a tuner, but it enough to sound out of tune.

 

[larz]

is this line parallel with the body?
I think that it should be "but is not sure"

 

[TNT]

Number one, when the trem comes to rest on the body, can you hear the slight thud??? If not, tighten the trem springs so that it comes to rest snuggly.

Number two, if after you do hear the thud, then look from the backside of the guitar (from the bottome strap button, towards the trem plate) and you'll see that part of the rear trem plate is microscopically lifted up on the low E
string side.

It's either lifting by itself while you are playing, or is not coming to rest perfectly on the body (you have to look extremely close!) Sometimes this is only a "hair" margin, but that's enough.

To remedy this: use the pivot screws (this may mess with your action though, or (what I do) shim the rear of the trem plate.

 

[mikeller]

TNT -

Yes, but I sometimes feel it is more that a slight thud.

Further - when I play and choke strings the bridge does thud up and down slightly. I have tightened the claw and can stop that, but then the trem bar become too stiff and hard to use.

I am using 3 springs - should I consider using more and loosening the claw?

 

[Headstock]

I would call CS and send it to the factory.

 

[guertzi]

I would call CS and send it to the factory.

+1

Best way to have this item fixed is to get in touch with the people who put your guitar together in the first place.

Since the forumites are a helpful bunch of people, nearly everybody will throw in their two cents and you might probably be more confused afterwards than before even though everyone just has the best intentions to help you out.

The customer service at EBMM just rules and they will definitely sort this out for you!

Rock on!

 

[INMT]

You mentioned it got a recent setup . How recent? Did you stretch the strings out?

 

[mikeller]

It was a few weeks ago.

Actually, that could be part of the problem. I wasn't happy with the first set up so they re-did it. Then I had a choke out issue so it went back for the 3rd time to have a couple high frets cleaned up.

However, they used the same strings each time. I believe when they dressed up the high frets they removed the strings and re-used them. I use 9.5-44's and left a new set in the case, but they did not use them.

Mike