axis is getting worse!

[Big Dainjerus]

axis is getting better!

Im sorry to start a new thread on something I talked about a couple days ago, but the buzzing on my new axis has gotten significantly worse. Some suggested me to loosen the trus rod but then some said not to and that a professional should do it. I tinkerered with it but I cant get it to budge, and I am a little nervous to use some real force on it after seeing that pink ibanez MANAGLED. It was also suggested cause of tuning issues or because of the buzzing to leave the nuts unlocked and tune it/play etc for a few days, which I did. However, after just picking it up, the buzzing now makes the guitar virtually unplayable below the 5th fret. Both E strings seem to be OK, but probaly just cause the other strings are terrible, there is no difference between a note on the 2nd fret or 3rd fret, and this goes for all 4 strings. Notes and chords do not sound, its pretty much dead. It was shipped from new york and arrived here in baltimore a day later and I was told that that should not have any effect on the guitar. I undersatnd that this may be part of growing pains of getting a new guitar but I mean come on, im getting kinda pissed off, as Im pretty poor but love guitar and love music and its been a part of my life forever and threw down some good money and for the time being I cant play my new baby, shes playin games with me! And its a pain in the ass to find any type of real gutiar tech around here in baltimore not to mention it will cost me even more money...should I send it back and get my money? SOrry for the drastic measures fellas as we are all axis addicts, including me, but time are drastic without my axis.

 

[Raz]

Add a little 3 in 1 oil to the truss rod nut. I know my Wolfie was jammed also, but a touch of oil loosened it...just be patient...BTW how old is the guitar and have you changed thw strings?

 

[OrangeChannel]

First of all Hamstacker or whatever his name is shouldn't have posted that pic because of how it;s making you feel....as stated before I've never seen that happen, it almost looks like they did that on purpose. It's ok to put a lil' pressure on the truss dial....in fact try and move it a quarter turn to the right and then move it back to the left that quarter, plus another quarter...sometimes it just gets stuck if it hasn't been setup in a long time.

 

[Big Dainjerus]

guitar was bought brand new and strings are brand new...

 

[brentrocks]

sorry dude! hopefully things will work out !

 

[Raz]

sorry dude! hopefully things will work out !

Man... well I can help you with one thing, my brand new Sub1 came in and I noticed a little too much clearance so I attempted to adjust the truss rod and mine was stubborn also...but I gave it a little convincing and turned it clockwise a 1/4 turn...tomorrow I will check it again. As a comparison my other Sub1 turned like butter...

 

[PurpleSport]

<snip>I am a little nervous to use some real force on it after seeing that pink ibanez MANAGLED.

Dude...relax!

There is NO WAY that pic is from a truss rod that was cranked too tightly, unless someone put a power drill with a socket wrench on the end of it and pulled the trigger extra hard...

The only way I could see what that pic shows happening is that someone threw that Ibanez way up high, and it came straight down on it's headstock into a nice hard stage or concrete floor. I mean, that's a 90 degree angle on that bend, and the fingerboard is lifted off...I don't see how a truss rod alone is gonna do that, no matter how tightly it's wound. It'd probably break or pop outta the back of the neck or out of the fingerboard before that would happen. Regardless of whatever misfortune brought that on, the only solution I see for the neck in that pic is a total replacement.

In your case, however, I see a trip to a good luthier or repair guy in your future if you can't figure this out on your own right now, and there's no shame to be had if you're a newbie at this. Do a little research about who's the ace guy in your area, spring for the $40-$100 bucks it'll cost, get it done, and be happy (ask a few questions about what he did when you pick up the guitar and pay attention before that last step). Then get the Erlewine book and learn how to do it yourself....money well spent!

 

[hambucker]

First of all Hamstacker or whatever his name is shouldn't have posted that pic because of how it;s making you feel....as stated before I've never seen that happen, it almost looks like they did that on purpose. It's ok to put a lil' pressure on the truss dial....in fact try and move it a quarter turn to the right and then move it back to the left that quarter, plus another quarter...sometimes it just gets stuck if it hasn't been setup in a long time.

Calm down guys, I put that pic in as an exaggeration, not to be taken seriously. I didn't in any way mean to say that THAT would happen, but that you can seriously damage the neck if you don't know what you are doing. I think we will all agree that it is very easy to screw up a neck if you don't know how little you need to adjust the truss rod. It seems he is getting good info here, you guys are really helpful, so if he wants to go ahead, but be cautious. I would always advise anyone against adjusting a truss rod if they are unsure about what to do.

 

[nobozos]

Hey B.D., download the Wolfgang Owners Manual from the Peavey website, and follow the directions in that guide. It will tell you step by step what to do. Don't be afraid to turn the truss rod adjustment. It's probably just a little stiff, and once it breaks loose, it will be fine. If it isn't, EBMM Customer Service will help you because the guitar will have been buggered up from the factory. Adjusting the truss rod on the Axis is easier than any other guitar out there. Only turn it a quarter turn at a time though, so that you are sure not to screw it up.

Congrats on the guitar btw.

 

[Warg Master]

The truss rod get's tighter as you tighten it, don't worry, just be careful and move it in increments.

 

[dwf1004]

BD, sorry to hear that things still aren't working out for you.

If this guitar is new, as you have stated in the past, and you aren't comfortable with the people in your area, as much as you may not like to hear this, you could look into send it to EBMM and having warranty work being done on it to fix 'er up:

1. It's covered under warranty.
2. Jon and the boys are fully competent...I'd send my sister there...wait, let me take that back...I'd send my sister's guitar there (there's a line, you know?)

The least I would suggest is to call them: 1.800.543.2255 and talk with someone there. They may be able to walk you through some things over the phone, give you some insight, etc. This company kicks absolute a** when it comes to post-purchase help. If they can't, or if those suggestions do not resolve it, they could go up the chain and possibly get it out to them to investigate further. You'd be without your baby for a while, but once you get 'er back, she'd be in good shape, you can bet on that.

Hang in there brother...we understand your issues and frustration, and they do not go unnoticed. Do keep in mind, though, that only so much can be done with a physical/actual object over the Internet or telephone. We'll get you squared up somehow, OK?

 

[Lejon]

Downloading the Peavey manual worked for me ..... you just have to look at your EB as it where a Peavey (difficult, i know, but possible)

Does EB not have more mainenance info online somewhere?
Exept the FAQ's on the EB site, that is .....

 

[tvanveen]

Yo Big D...I'll be in College Park on Thursday. If you want to meet me there I could take a look at it. I'm not a tech or anything, but I know how to adjust EB necks.

Another alternative would be to take it to Atomic Music in College Park. Buy a set of strings and they'd probably do it for free.

Of course, the safest thing to do would be to send it back to EB, but I can understand how you might not want to wait.

 

[Big Dainjerus]

Hey guys! Sorry its been a day or so since I could get back on an update with my new pacific blue burst baby, my internet is out cause Baltimore is ghetto so I came to the school library to check out the forum (better reason than any to be in the libs). And thanks for all the concern and help!!! SO I finally sacked up and got to work on the truss rod a bit, I put the long end of the allen rench thing into one of the holes and gradually moved it, however I dont think I did a 1/4 turn, I just turned it enough so that a new "hole" was facing me now, and the old one has now shifted to the left, and the buzzing has def gone away! However, Im not sure, but it seems as if maybe the guitar is slightly more difficult to play, as if the action might be slightly too high? I also only did it last night and I just checked this morning for the buzzing, I didnt really get warmed up and rock on it or anything, but can turning it ever so slightly like I did make the action to high? Should I turn it back a little bit so that it is in between the above mentioned holes in the tr? Now that I got it moving I understand and can see that the tr on the axis is VERY easy and simple, as compared to my ibanez s series where I dont even knew where to begin to fix that buzzing. Hopefully ill get my interenet back up and play it a bit and get back to you...happy voting everyone, make sure you stay safe!!! ANd forget voting for these dudes lets start an axis revolution!!!!

thanks again fellas!

 

[PurpleSport]

Now yer talkin'!

BD - congrats on the positive movement!

Yes, a tiny 1/8 turn can make a big difference in feel and playability....and yes, it sounds like you might need to make a slight drop in the action to complement the neck relief change. As with the trussrod tweak, go at it slowly and deliberately and you should be fine.

Good luck!

 

[OrangeChannel]

Great news Big Dain.

 

[Raz]

Time to change the title to Getting Better!

 

[Bassplyr]

Glad to hear you finally had a movement...er, well you know what I mean.