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pan_of_qld

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Does anyone use these 4 only?
I find I'm using the B a lot and less and less G these days.

So what are the implications on using a B on a regular 4 string bass?
Pickup specs different?
Nut groove widening for sure.
Maybe even bridge not taking the wider strings.
 
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Ya, a good friend of mine just had his Sting Ray set-up for B-D mainly because he doesn't quite like the feel of 5s and plays lo most of the time. It's doing well for him so far and as for the "tension" question.... a 5 string neck does OK so a 4 string will be just as fine.
 

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Psychicpet said:
Ya, a good friend of mine just had his Sting Ray set-up for B-D mainly because he doesn't quite like the feel of 5s and plays lo most of the time. It's doing well for him so far and as for the "tension" question.... a 5 string neck does OK so a 4 string will be just as fine.
Sometimes you have to ream the hole for the lowest string on the bridge. Often as not, you have to file the nut. Don't worry about any tension increase cuz what you get is a decrease. A G-string is typically at 30% greater tension than a B-string. Worst case would be needing to shim the nut because deeper strings have greater excursion, but usually just adjusting the action is fully tends to that.
 

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I have been stringing 4 bangers up like this for years. no real adjustment sans for the possibility of having to boar the bridge hole for the "B" a lil , and thats a very rare occasion. I have a * G wurd * explorer that is strung up like this now and its alot of fun to play. if you are used to 5 strings then jump to this, it will take some getting used to like anything new you try out.

have fun with it!!
 

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I recall some info on the bassist for Audioslave using a left handed neck on a right handed bass to give the B string better tension. I'll try to find it.
 

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pan_of_qld said:
Does anyone use these 4 only?
I find I'm using the B a lot and less and less G these days.

So what are the implications on using a B on a regular 4 string bass?
Pickup specs different?
Nut groove widening for sure.
Maybe even bridge not taking the wider strings.

It's great to see another Brisbanite posting on the forum, this must be the EB capital of Australia.

Colin
 

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Psychicpet said:
Ya, a good friend of mine just had his Sting Ray set-up for B-D mainly because he doesn't quite like the feel of 5s and plays lo most of the time. It's doing well for him so far and as for the "tension" question.... a 5 string neck does OK so a 4 string will be just as fine.


In most cases, a BEAD tuning will actually put less tension on a neck. The G string is usually the most high tension string on a neck. If anything, you'll need to loosen your truss rod, and not tighten it.

Just be careful to not break your nut.*










* wow....some advice really IS universal :D
 

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Colin said:
It's great to see another Brisbanite posting on the forum, this must be the EB capital of Australia.

Colin
:eek: i certainly hope not!

where are the Sydneysiders!? :(
 

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bassmonkeee said:
In most cases, a BEAD tuning will actually put less tension on a neck. The G string is usually the most high tension string on a neck. If anything, you'll need to loosen your truss rod, and not tighten it.

Just be careful to not break your nut.*










* wow....some advice really IS universal :D
i've actually considered doing this as well - BEAD is certainly appealing for me cos i can't afford a new bass (ie. 5-string) at the moment and my band plays alot of stuff from C to E...the only issue when stringing up BEAD appears to be the nut, if at all

so i can just slap on some 5-string Slinkies and have no probs?:confused:
 

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I actually had a crack at detuning my e to b on my sterling last night and it sounded appalling (user error im sure...... so surely there would have to be some form of adjustments made... )
 

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Lazybite said:
I actually had a crack at detuning my e to b on my sterling last night and it sounded appalling (user error im sure...... so surely there would have to be some form of adjustments made... )


You need the girth of a 125 or 130 tuned @ 440 for this to be functional.
A regular E string tuned to B would be WAY too flappy. :eek:
 

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higher1 said:
You need the girth of a 125 or 130 tuned @ 440 for this to be functional.
A regular E string tuned to B would be WAY too flappy. :eek:
Thats exactly what it was..... more percussive, less tonally/bonerly... will give it a crack with a fiver
 

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0557 said:
I recall some info on the bassist for Audioslave using a left handed neck on a right handed bass to give the B string better tension. I'll try to find it.
Don't know about "more tension", but a reverse head means the peg for low string is so far from the nut that the main winding will not be wrapping onto the peg. If the the main winding of a high string gets onto its peg it's no big deal cuz it's such a light string.
 

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higher1 said:
You need the girth of a 125 or 130 tuned @ 440 for this to be functional.
A regular E string tuned to B would be WAY too flappy. :eek:

Not to be a stick in the mud, or anything, but if you had a low B string "tuned @ 440," it'd snap long before you got there since you'd be tuning it to the same note as the 24th fret on the A string of a guitar. 440hz=A :D

Now, I know that's not what you meant, but it is what you said.... ;)
 

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bassmonkeee said:
Not to be a stick in the mud, or anything, but if you had a low B string "tuned @ 440," it'd snap long before you got there since you'd be tuning it to the same note as the 24th fret on the A string of a guitar. 440hz=A :D

Now, I know that's not what you meant, but it is what you said.... ;)


this was used as an "A" typical (pun intended) reference point. I refer you to this website for an explanation of terms: http://www.theorylessons.com/tuning.html
 
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