i cant do it...dont know why. well i can but its just nowhere near as musical as when i play other guitars. its really strange but when i bend more than a whole step it feels sticky resulting in uneven vibrato and i always sound other strings...but just with the jp6 (other guitars with same scale and string gauge play). what is going on?
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Dizzy
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Dunno about the "sticky" bit, but maybe you need to adjust your technique a smidgeon to account for flatter fretboard radius (15" vs a likely 10" for your other MM's) ??
What are your other axes ?
What are your other axes ?
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Dizzy
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Well, that blows my thought out of the water.
A quick check shows the C1 has a 14" radius, and the S470 has nearly 16" radius, so as the JP is 15" and the Sub & Axis are 10", radius won't be the factor.
In terms of technique, I was referring to the different feel of a 'flat' neck vs more curved fretboard radius - I know going from my Silos (10") to my JP's (15") requires a LITTLE bit of attention due to the different neck/string geometry, but it's no biggie - and overcome within 5 mins of changing guitars.
Only other thing I can think of now is set-up / action differences ?, meaning that your finger(s) are hitting the adjacent strings in a slightly different position, therefore changing the way they react to your fingers movements ? (the benefit here is that as the fretboard radii are similar, it could be resolved with a setup, rather than a technique tweak)
Unfortunately something like this is not really a CS issue, as it's probably a personal thing - but they might have some good input ?
Give them a go - you never know.
A quick check shows the C1 has a 14" radius, and the S470 has nearly 16" radius, so as the JP is 15" and the Sub & Axis are 10", radius won't be the factor.
In terms of technique, I was referring to the different feel of a 'flat' neck vs more curved fretboard radius - I know going from my Silos (10") to my JP's (15") requires a LITTLE bit of attention due to the different neck/string geometry, but it's no biggie - and overcome within 5 mins of changing guitars.
Only other thing I can think of now is set-up / action differences ?, meaning that your finger(s) are hitting the adjacent strings in a slightly different position, therefore changing the way they react to your fingers movements ? (the benefit here is that as the fretboard radii are similar, it could be resolved with a setup, rather than a technique tweak)
Unfortunately something like this is not really a CS issue, as it's probably a personal thing - but they might have some good input ?
Give them a go - you never know.
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Slingy
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Great point. Having a floating bridge seems to be a bit of a trade of in bendability, thats why I set mine for down only which feels more like a hardtail, though I don't have the JP.
k.gormley
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I dont use tremolos for that reason .........whammy is not worth it
Dizzy
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I'm a real hardtail fan too, but he's got no issues with his S470, so the floating trem probably isn't the cause - although the ZR bridge on the S series is a pretty fancy unit with ball bearing pivot.
I'm still thinking the ringing of adjacent strings points to a setup difference - but if it's not a string height thing, maybe it's a trem spring tension issue ?
You definately need to bend FURTHER to achieve the same pitch change with a trem.
So if your JP trem provides less resistance than the S470, then you'll have to bend it further to achieve the same pitch change - therefore interfering with the adjacent strings more ?
I'm still thinking the ringing of adjacent strings points to a setup difference - but if it's not a string height thing, maybe it's a trem spring tension issue ?
You definately need to bend FURTHER to achieve the same pitch change with a trem.
So if your JP trem provides less resistance than the S470, then you'll have to bend it further to achieve the same pitch change - therefore interfering with the adjacent strings more ?
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Nik_Left_RG
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Floating bridge has not affected my vibrato... but really, I havent heard about this before.. Should be something that we are missing out..
Would it be possible for you to post a vdo as to playing all the guitars and the jp6 as well.. Just a suggestion..
Seeing it might give us a better idea...
Would it be possible for you to post a vdo as to playing all the guitars and the jp6 as well.. Just a suggestion..
Seeing it might give us a better idea...
i used to have a mac and it was easy to make videos but with my pc im in the dark. oh and my s470 is a 93 so it has the lopro licensed floyd (also have an s520wnf with an edge bridge) but maybe the locking nut is doing something for that (i thought that 15 year old trem springs would make bending a challenge). im thinking its just a combination of little things...and i too had never heard of the floating trem thing but it makes sense. thanks guys, super helpful as usuall. 
GHWelles
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Jeez, bending on my JP6 is very easy, it has jumbo frets to facilitate that. If you have trouble bending and other strings are sounding, raise the action. If the string feels like it is sticking to the frets when bending, change the strings. If that does not work and assuming you bought the guitar used, then steel wool the frets to polish them with 0000 steel wool.
MusicManJP6
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interesting! try raising the action higher than you'd like just to see if it helps out any. if not then maybe it is just you!
GHWelles
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id hate to raise the action but i bought it new, had trouble clean fretboard, new strings and after 0000 s. wool polish seems like its either action or me
Try adjusting the truss rod to loosen it. Mark the present position so you can put it back if you don't like it. Quick and easy and reversible raising of the action.
