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[jeffrey]

It could be something to do with injury or tendonitis. In the DVD that came with Systematic Chaos he's wearing a wrist brace in more than one scene.

I've had nagging problems with tendonitis and CTS (mostly due to injuries) and sleep with a similar brace on my left hand every night (primarily for my thumb).

I had to switch to .009's for a few years (literally) until my hand got better. Possibly a similar situation for JP?

 

[jeffrey]

For anyone interested, I updated my other thread with some info.

I brought my BFR JP7 and regular JP7 to the bandroom tonight and A/B'd them and posted up some brief thoughts:

Thread is here: http://www.ernieball.com/forums/395832-post19.html

 

[adamrogo]

I'm not doubting it shipped with 10's, you have one and I do not.

I was hjust saying that JP's BFR's are all setup with 9's (in standard tuning of course)

 

[jeffrey]

I'll ask him when I see him tomorrow after DT plays.

 

[Rossie]

It could be something to do with injury or tendonitis. In the DVD that came with Systematic Chaos he's wearing a wrist brace in more than one scene.

I've had nagging problems with tendonitis and CTS (mostly due to injuries) and sleep with a similar brace on my left hand every night (primarily for my thumb).

I had to switch to .009's for a few years (literally) until my hand got better. Possibly a similar situation for JP?

There was once where JP injured his wrist while weight-lifting...
I remembered that JP had to do a video for a magazine, he played the solo of Under A Glass Moon...
There was a thread somewhere here or on JP's forum about this, most likely it was during the same time when DT recorded SC. Hence the braces on the SC DVD...

 

[jeffrey]

Yeah, I remember reading that as well, Rossie.

I've been there/done that more than once. ><

 

[MN246]

Since it's been mentioned more than once, I thought I would dispell the myth that you can't have an "unfinished" mahogany neck. There are numerous examples of acoustic and electric guitars with unpainted mahogany necks. But just imagine a blackburst or blur BFR with a brown wood neck. I doubt it would be a visually pleasing as the painted one.

I've a couple of guitars from another manufacturer that had mahogany necks with a tung oil finish. They felt very similar to the neck on my Axis in terms of finish. I'm pretty sure mahogany has to have some type of finish on it to keep it from warping.

 

[jeffrey]

Just got my BFR JP7 signed by the whole band (already have a bunch of guitars signed by JP, figured I'd get the whole band to sign it this time ) and only got a minute to chat with John (unfortunately the ticket company over-sold the meet-n-greet, though they did apologize, there was supposed to be 30 but they sold 90! ).

Anyway, John IS in fact playing .009's, he said he liked the way the trem felt and it was a bit easier on his hand and he might go back to .010's one day. He said my BFR was the first one he saw outside of his own

Anyway, going in to watch'em play (in my car on the laptop, wanted to put my guitar back in the car rather than hold it), I'll post a crappy camera pic of the signatures for those that care later.

 

[adamrogo]

Considering he is playing 9's, I'm surprised they don't ship with them.

Enjoy the show!

 

[philiprst]

If they're the same gauge strings it's the same tension, unless you're somehow defying physics.

Actually, different guitars with the same scale length and strings can feel like they have different tensions. Of course, if the ends of the string were rigidly fixed at the nut and bridge then simple physics tells you that tension is the same. However, that's not a good model of a guitar. That's because the "tension" you feel when fretting notes and doing bends is not just about the tension in the string. With a trem system not only does the string stretch but the trem will move as well, changing the feel. Also, on a guitar without a locking nut you are not just stretching the piece of the string between the nut and bridge; the whole string is stretched.

 

[chrisallen]

Anyway, John IS in fact playing .009's,

See, i'm not a COMPLETE total idiot. just a little.

 

[Rossie]

Just got my BFR JP7 signed by the whole band (already have a bunch of guitars signed by JP, figured I'd get the whole band to sign it this time ) and only got a minute to chat with John (unfortunately the ticket company over-sold the meet-n-greet, though they did apologize, there was supposed to be 30 but they sold 90! ).

Anyway, John IS in fact playing .009's, he said he liked the way the trem felt and it was a bit easier on his hand and he might go back to .010's one day. He said my BFR was the first one he saw outside of his own

Anyway, going in to watch'em play (in my car on the laptop, wanted to put my guitar back in the car rather than hold it), I'll post a crappy camera pic of the signatures for those that care later.

That is just too cool! Remember to post some pictures of the guitar with sigs!

 

[jeffrey]

Funny thing is, when they were all signing my guitar, I asked John:

"So, I hear you are playing 9's again?"

John: "Yeah, I'm playin' wussy strings! I wussed out!" I thought that was funny.

I commented that I like them more for left hand vibrato, but I get a little carried away with them (he agreed).

I'll get the crappy pics I took on my phone posted in a bit, trying to sort out whether I'm going to pay for net access tonight or not (stupid hotel rooms charge for it ><).

 

[peat]

i like the look of the original jp much more
mainly because of the arm scoop

although i saw one pic of the BFR that was a transblack quilt
it looked awesome
sort of like a rocky landscape from lord of the rings or something

 

[Rossie]

Funny thing is, when they were all signing my guitar, I asked John:

"So, I hear you are playing 9's again?"

John: "Yeah, I'm playin' wussy strings! I wussed out!" I thought that was funny.

I commented that I like them more for left hand vibrato, but I get a little carried away with them (he agreed).

I'll get the crappy pics I took on my phone posted in a bit, trying to sort out whether I'm going to pay for net access tonight or not (stupid hotel rooms charge for it ><).

I'm so envious of the meet and great sessions... Although we get to see DT in concert here, but highly unlikely to have a meet and greet session to let them sign stuff and talk to them...

Forget the net access in hotels, go to Starbucks or something for free wifi...

 

[jeffrey]

They are all closed, it's 12:30am here.

I paid for it, my cellular net access keeps flaking out.

Starting a new thread though, this one is REALLY getting more and more hijacked, I don't want to contribute to that any more than I did already.

 

[Dizzy]

Actually, different guitars with the same scale length and strings can feel like they have different tensions. Of course, if the ends of the string were rigidly fixed at the nut and bridge then simple physics tells you that tension is the same. However, that's not a good model of a guitar. That's because the "tension" you feel when fretting notes and doing bends is not just about the tension in the string. With a trem system not only does the string stretch but the trem will move as well, changing the feel. Also, on a guitar without a locking nut you are not just stretching the piece of the string between the nut and bridge; the whole string is stretched.

Yes, but deviations such as locking nut aside, we are talking about a JP, with same nut, same trem / bridge, same scale length, and I would guess very similar action. The only real variable is action, which can certainly affect the way strings feel.

We're not talking hardtail vs trem here, it's basically the same beast.

Therefore simple physics can be applied.