Bongo 5 replacement pickup?

[ggunn]

Maybe the 30th anniversary bass could be a MoBass like the MoMark amps, but with interchangeable pickups, preamps, necks, bodies, hardware...buying a bass from GC would be like ordering a sandwich at Subway...

Funny how we always want what we can't have.

I don't know if that was aimed at me, but I'll just point out that I decided what I wanted long before I found out that I couldn't have it. ;^)

 

[Big Poppa]

GGUN

"I hope you can find what you want. Maybe you can post in the For Sale thread that you would like to trade your HHP for a HSP?" BP
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"Your solution, which is perfectly understandable from someone who sells basses, is for me to buy another bass. Unfortunately for both of us, I cannot afford to do that." GGUN


Take a deep breath. I take my time to try to solve your problem and keep you from butchering a bass and you suggest that Im trying to sell you another bass? I thought that you could trade with someone.....How do I profit from that and why the hard attitude? YOu are taking my well intentioned advice (which you solicited) and writing me off as a huckster just trying to move another bass.

If you trade and want to go back you can always find someone who will trade with you . BOngoloids are a cult you know.......

There are basses that have been owned by ten people and some of the ten more than once. Heinz the wonder bass comes to mind and Eggman/Silverburst red bongo is another

I may decide to make pickups for resale in the future. I need to make a significant investment in the pick up department as we have limited production.

Like I said our pickup's are what makes us unique. Thats why we control the supply....Strat pickups are not and neither is a generic humbucking.

I also can point out that everything has its plusses and minuses...Can you talk to theowners of Fender about policy directly?

 

[strummer]

Hey ggunn

Here is what I think:

You should stop thinking that the only solution to your problem is the one you thought of yourself. Why? Because I have suggested something much simpler: Go try a HS Bongo and compare it to your HHp. Then you'll know which one you like the best, and you can take it from there.

I have both, and I clearly favour the HH.

Ok, I will shortly get a HSp, but that's another story haha.

But the main point is that you have no idea how the S sounds compared to the H. All you have is a (admittedly true in theory) view point that the S will give you something the H won't, and playing a HH against a HS will give you all the answers you need, without all the mucking about with your original bass.
And comparing the sound of a strat to that of an LP might be ok even though an LP with a strat PU won't sound anything like a strat and vice versa, but applying the differences to the H and S of the Bongo simply won't float.

take care

 

[ggunn]

GGUN
Take a deep breath. I take my time to try to solve your problem and keep you from butchering a bass and you suggest that Im trying to sell you another bass? I thought that you could trade with someone.....How do I profit from that and why the hard attitude? YOu are taking my well intentioned advice (which you solicited) and writing me off as a huckster just trying to move another bass.

I did not mean anything personal toward you and I don't have a "hard attitude". I certainly did not portray you as a huckster, but MM's policy of not selling pickups is a marketing stratagem to sell basses ("...our pickup's [sic] are what makes us unique. Thats why we control the supply..."), not that there is anything wrong with that.

I have no intention of "butchering" my bass (an instrument with which I am very happy otherwise and I have no desire to trade away). I wanted to try a very simple and completely reversible mod, but you don't sell pickups separately. I wish you did, but that's pretty much the end of it. Let me know if you change your policy, OK?

Peace,

 

[mynan]

I certainly did not portray you as a huckster, but MM's policy of not selling pickups is a marketing stratagem to sell basses

Only if brand integrity sells basses...which I guess it does.

Don't let The Man keep you down.

 

[ggunn]

Only if brand integrity sells basses...which I guess it does.

Don't let The Man keep you down.

I hope The Man doesn't even know I'm alive. ;^)

 

[Rano Bass]

I may decide to make pickups for resale in the future. I need to make a significant investment in the pick up department as we have limited production.

Like I said our pickup's are what makes us unique. Thats why we control the supply....

That would be great news IMO.
I don't think any of the aftermarket pups for Stingray are as good as the originals.

 

[tadawson]

I did not mean anything personal toward you and I don't have a "hard attitude". I certainly did not portray you as a huckster, but MM's policy of not selling pickups is a marketing stratagem to sell basses ("...our pickup's [sic] are what makes us unique. Thats why we control the supply..."), not that there is anything wrong with that.

I have no intention of "butchering" my bass (an instrument with which I am very happy otherwise and I have no desire to trade away). I wanted to try a very simple and completely reversible mod, but you don't sell pickups separately. I wish you did, but that's pretty much the end of it. Let me know if you change your policy, OK?

Peace,

The other thing you need to keep in mind is that the HS Bongo is not the same as the HH Bongo with a different pickup. There is a bucking coil buried in the body of the HS to quite it down. That coil does not have any cores in it, and hence can't hear the strings, but is there, and serves a very important function to keep the bass quiet. Simply replacing an H with an S pickup would not give you that, and in all likelihood, would hum like crazy . . .

- Tim

 

[ggunn]

The other thing you need to keep in mind is that the HS Bongo is not the same as the HH Bongo with a different pickup. There is a bucking coil buried in the body of the HS to quite it down. That coil does not have any cores in it, and hence can't hear the strings, but is there, and serves a very important function to keep the bass quiet. Simply replacing an H with an S pickup would not give you that, and in all likelihood, would hum like crazy . . .

- Tim

Are you sure about that? If true, that's good information, something I didn't know, and it would have been a good point for the MM guy to bring up.

 

[Big Poppa]

ggun we try to make everybody happy. sorry if we dropped the ball with you.

 

[ggunn]

ggun we try to make everybody happy. sorry if we dropped the ball with you.

You didn't, really; it's just that if the S indeed isn't just a drop in, i.e., if its installation involves a buried second coil that wouldn't fit in the H rout, then knowing that would have saved me a lot of searching the web and arguing with you. ;^)

 

[tadawson]

Are you sure about that? If true, that's good information, something I didn't know, and it would have been a good point for the MM guy to bring up.

Yes, I am sure. I own both, and and had to change a pot on the preamp on my HS, and have observed the differences in person. Not sure how different the route is, though . . . IIRC, the bucking coil was in the preamp cavity . . . it's not a dummy pickup like on the (failing memory here . . ) Sterlings? (or was that the HS 'Ray . . ). It's a tad over an inch in diameter and round, and the preamp has a control on it to balance the dummy against the S pickup to null the hum.

- Tim

 

[oli@bass]

That's interesting about the dummy coil. On the StingRay HS there's a complete pickup between the H and the S (making it virtually a HSS) but it is mounted beneath the pickguard and does not really work as a pick up anymore.

 

[strummer]

All my basses has a dummy, me

 

[Grand Wazoo]

That's interesting about the dummy coil. On the StingRay HS there's a complete pickup between the H and the S (making it virtually a HSS) but it is mounted beneath the pickguard and does not really work as a pick up anymore.

But it would work as a proper pickup if you were to cut a hole in the pickguard and expose it, sometime ago I saw a guy on youtube doing just that.

 

[Big Poppa]

it works but is not voiced properly and not a great suggestions

 

[tadawson]

Like BP said, these dummy coils and dummy pickups are designed for one reason and one reason only - to pickup HUM (and *not* strings) so that the hum can be canceled from the "S" pickup that the dummy is paired with (Thats why the dummy in the Bongo doesn't seem to have any magnets or core whatsoever - it's not needed for what it's used for . . ).

So, if you want a pickup that is optimized for hum, go for it

Not to mention the lack of controls for the dummy . . . .

Just not a good idea in any way, shape, or form . . . .

- Tim