Can this guy do this?

[Tolerate]

Found this on Ebay. Would Ernie Ball have give him permission through lisencing as so forth to make these? Looking at it, I can't see the giving that permssion going by the quality

http://cgi.ebay.com/Miniature-Guita...397773009QQcategoryZ33046QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

[hbucker]

Doubtful. Maybe he's licensed all those guitars but I have to wonder. I think he's got a good idea. If he's doing it legally I hope he makes a million $.

 

[SteveB]

It's got the body countours of a Petrucci, and the pickups of a Luke! Not such a keen eye...

 

[Colin]

Don't give Foggy any idea's on how to get his first EBMM

 

[hbucker]

It's got the body countours of a Petrucci, and the pickups of a Luke! Not such a keen eye...

...And the EVH 5150 Kramer has a neck pickup... In any event, they're pretty good for as small as they are. Not sure they're worth $40 though.

 

[Eilif]

The head and the way the strings go through the nut are just so wrong...

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

They look lousy!

 

[Larry]

who cares they look like garbage

 

[CudBucket]

A) It's illegal to use a brand name without permission especially if you're using it to make money. The auction should be reported to Ebay.

B) They look like @$$.

 

[edensdad]

I'm certainly not defending this guy, but maybe the way he gets away with it is by making them slightly different - like how some guitar makers make knockoff strats with the slightly different headstock, or Les Pauls with the body curve just a little bit different.

I wouldn't waste my money on this.

Now if EBMM made licensed collectors minitures . . .

 

[blackspy]

They just cheap trinkets, he doesn't seem to be claiming to have any 'brand name' behind any of it. What's the big deal?

I post a thread about someone who is blatantly selling JP copies for a large store, it gets deleted without a word, yet every poor SOB on eBay who even hints at the MM design should get their auction pulled or a lawyer on their ass. A quick search on eBay can find you a couple of places with blatant ripoff 'real' guitars too, what about them. Seems like only the little guys get stepped on.

I think the cheapie trinkets are neat and all, I wouldn't pay $40 for one though.

 

[CudBucket]

They just cheap trinkets, he doesn't seem to be claiming to have any 'brand name' behind any of it. What's the big deal?

Read the auction title. It says Steve Lukather (violation #1) and musicman (violation #2) right in the title. So anyone searching for either, will find his junk. Therefore, he's using both names to make money without the permission of either.

I'm sure EBMM and other Companies think it's a big deal. Plus, it is cheap junk. I wouldn't want to be associated with it.

 

[blackspy]

My point is that some guy on ebay advertises something that is no way going to hurt EB sales, and people jump all over him. Yet others, who can, and do hurt sales by blatantly ripping off stuff, publicly get away with it totally. I wouldn't worry too much about individuals on eBay, other than frauds who pass off non-EB guitars as the real thing.

 

[Jonny Dubai]

and it looks like junk!!!!! IMO


Jonny

 

[koogie2k]

Personally, they are not for me......

I think Cud might be onto something about selling something that is using an artist's name and manufacturing companies name in order to make $$. I personally don't think it will hurt EBMM's bottom line, but, there are people out there who will swear to God and country that it is an EBMM product and that EBMM should have to deal with the issues realted to it. That is where I think EBMM will and probably have looked into the matter in order to protect themselves. Can't fault them (EBMM) for that.

 

[smallequestrian]

My point is that some guy on ebay advertises something that is no way going to hurt EB sales, and people jump all over him. Yet others, who can, and do hurt sales by blatantly ripping off stuff, publicly get away with it totally. I wouldn't worry too much about individuals on eBay, other than frauds who pass off non-EB guitars as the real thing.

Blackspy, in reality, yes its not a big deal like you suggest. Its likely not to cost EBMM any money. However there is such as thing called copyright law. With copyrights, if you fail to go after or protect your copyright properly, you can lose the copyright. This is where people are coming from.

As for why your other thread was deleted, it has been discussed many times on this forum and we don't wish to bring up that particular morons name anymore. Sorry, that you were not given a good reason. If all else fails pm a mod and ask.

 

[Larry]

these things are made all the time there are Gibson Replicas and Fender and as far as it seems no other company has made a big deal about it just my two cents

 

[blackspy]

Blackspy, in reality, yes its not a big deal like you suggest. Its likely not to cost EBMM any money. However there is such as thing called copyright law. With copyrights, if you fail to go after or protect your copyright properly, you can lose the copyright. This is where people are coming from.

As for why your other thread was deleted, it has been discussed many times on this forum and we don't wish to bring up that particular morons name anymore. Sorry, that you were not given a good reason. If all else fails pm a mod and ask.

In fairness, I figured the link to "that" site wouldn't be a hit, but I think what is going on there is worse. Also, Jon did reply to my post wondering why, and explained it, so I'm not complaining there. I understand it.

I still think what is going on there though is the kind of thing people should get upset about, if anything. I thought the headstock design was copyrighted? Yet "that guy" can sell copies that look the same, and clearly state they're EBMM JP Copies. Of course, adding... better than the real thing. How can he get away with that, and a guy on eBay gets slammed for selling a little novelty item and mentioning what it is supposed to look like. He's not hurting EB, the other guy is.

 

[Spudmurphy]

these things are made all the time there are Gibson Replicas and Fender and as far as it seems no other company has made a big deal about it just my two cents

+1

You walk down the market stalls in London and you will see these being sold.
They are nothing more than trinkets, ornaments thats all.
I had one bought for me for Xmas - a little hand made guitar in a wood/glass case with a photo of Hendrix in it. my brother bought it as a "stocking filler" present.
hell it's not even a close match of any guitar that Hendrix played.

Yes Larry you are right, they have been around for years, and will continue to do so.

I lent my mate my Les Paul and he made a great 8 inch replica of it, all hand made using an electric drill as a lathe. He's a fireman with loads of spare time on his hands - now that did turn out good.

Maybe I should lend him my Albert Lee..............

..... nah !!!!!

 

[Sub1 Zero]

now that you mentioned cheap knockoff guitars, those things piss me off. they actually sucker people in too, and they are total crap. i saw some at a flea market and the action was a mile high, and you could just tell it was slapped together in a chinese sweatshop... to top it off, many of them had floyd rose knockoffs and the fine tuners werent evemn tuners, they were just for show. sorry for ranting...... man i love my music man