Colud you put an original floyd rose on an Axis super sport???feedback

[Arfsg1000]

Hi everyone im ashton, im new to ernie ball forum and i realize this is a pretty wild question for my first post but i recently purchased an axis super sport with musicman vintage trem. My main question is: would it be possible to put an original floyd rose on my super sport to keep the tuning stabability of the axis and keep the tonal versatility of the super sport??? I mean i know the pros and cons, like changing strings, but im a heavy tremelo bar user, but use a lot of different tones too. I basically want as much feedback as i can to help me form my own opinion on the question. Dont get me wrong i absurlutely love the guitar its just the trem that im confused on...
Anyway i really appreciate you viewing this and hope i get some useful guidance on the matter.

Thanks a lot
Ashton

 

[dg5150]

Sure !! might need locking tuners, or a locking nut .. Check the post spacing agains the floyd s against the original .

Doug

 

[Norrin Radd]

Good question for a competent luthier, do we have any on these boards?

 

[beej]

You could.

But for the money you'd spend, I think you'd be better to find an Axis with a Floyd and simply re-wire the toggle to a 5 way or a rotary switch - they have the same pickups after all. If you want a tone control as well you could use dual-concentric pots (two pots on one shaft).

Much easier & cheaper mods and they're reversible.

 

[geektard]

But for the money you'd spend, I think you'd be better to find an Axis with a Floyd and simply re-wire the toggle to a 5 way or a rotary switch

But man, with 2 knobs (volume & rotary) side-by-side, the guitar is gonna look realy weird...

 

[TonyEVH5150]

I'd just get an Axis, and put in a coil split with the volume knob (push-pull pot). I've seen at least one other guitar with this kind of feature, and it does give a little more flexibility to an already great guitar.

 

[J_Alexander]

good question helps me out as i am gonna put a floyd on my next purchase which will be a sss sport.

 

[Jimi D]

imho, putting a floyd rose on a guitar without a locking nut is pointless, and installing a locking nut on a neck is a really touchy job for a very experienced (read EXPENSIVE) luthier. Also, the post spacing and body routing is NOT the same, so you will have to get some routing done, and have a couple post holes filled and new ones drilled... Now, lets do the math, presuming that you wouldn't need to completely re-finish the body after all the hacking into it: a quality Floyd Rose tremolo & locking nut will set you back about $200, and the installation, including the nut install and body routing, by qualified luthier will certainly run $200-$300. That's half the price of a used Axis, right there!! Personally, I think that anyone who undertakes a mod like this on a Super Sport when they could just go out and buy an Axis is completely freakin' nuts!!

my 2¢

 

[J_Alexander]

good thing i know a qualified one for 3/4 of that. helps that he is a forum friend. lol

http://frankenstraat.com/home.html the guy can make some mean stuff now. the only reason i want a floyd on my sport is feel. i am so used to playing a floyd it is hard to play something different the feel isnt there as far as my hand resting on the bridge. i agree what everyone is saying about getting a axis instead of the super sport easy call there. but since the axis isnt made in s/s/s/ i have to get a sport.

 

[beej]

But man, with 2 knobs (volume & rotary) side-by-side, the guitar is gonna look realy weird...

Well, you have a couple of other options. (And hey, the rotary switch would probably look great.) If you don't want all of the super sport's 5 way switching, you could use a 3-way toggle but wire it up differently (you would need a different toggle switch, but that's not a problem.) You could also introduce a push pull pot or another switch. Even if you have to route for a 5-way switch, it's much less work than routing for a new bridge and locking nut

In the end, if you want to spend the cash you can definitely get someone to install the Floyd. But read the story about Flukather's ruined Lukes before you do!

 

[Astrofreq]

I've wondered that too. I have an Axis SS which goes out of tune when I use the tremolo. I've thought about putting a locking nut on there. Is there something I can do without altering it to solve this problem? Should I just spend some time really ROCKING the tremolo to stretch out the springs more. you know, sort of break em in more?

your expertise is needed . . .

 

[beej]

Lubing the nut helps greatly so there's equal tension in front and behind the nut. There are a lot of guys that use the non-floyd MM trems (oh say Luke and JP) and don't have stability issues.

 

[Arfsg1000]

What do you mean lube up the nut, with what???vasaline . Im reconsidering the floyd now. Did you guys pick up your axis second hand then, cos some of you have so many, i got one. .

 

[Jonny Dubai]

My ASS trem stays in tune OK when i use it....not abuse it!!!!!

 

[Jimi D]

good thing i know a qualified one for 3/4 of that. helps that he is a forum friend. lol

http://frankenstraat.com/home.html the guy can make some mean stuff now. the only reason i want a floyd on my sport is feel. i am so used to playing a floyd it is hard to play something different the feel isnt there as far as my hand resting on the bridge. i agree what everyone is saying about getting a axis instead of the super sport easy call there. but since the axis isnt made in s/s/s/ i have to get a sport.

In all honesty, if I had to have an Axis S/S/S with a floyd, I'd buy an Axis, get a pickguard made, and route it out for the middle pickup - less risky than trying to mount a locking nut on a finished neck...

 

[beej]

In all honesty, if I had to have an Axis S/S/S with a floyd, I'd buy an Axis, get a pickguard made, and route it out for the middle pickup - less risky than trying to mount a locking nut on a finished neck...

I'm with Jimi- that seems like a much safer route to go!

What do you mean lube up the nut, with what???

Some guys love "Big Bend Nut Sauce". Others vasoline and gaphite (pencil shavings). I've heard chapstick as well. The key is to prevent the strings from binding in the nut and slide over it efficiently.

You can also tighten your locking tuners somewhat (the screws in the tips of the tuners) in case they're moving at all.

 

[Astrofreq]

Some guys love "Big Bend Nut Sauce".

Is that really a brand? that rules.


YES, I bought two of my super sports on ebay, about $850 each. WELL worth it.

 

[Arfsg1000]

I guess with all the hastle and expence of doing such a major mod, you might aswell buy a second hand, or ebay axis. Thats what i may do......hmmm....now i spent all my frickin money, gonna take me a long, long time to save up Where are the best places to get fairly cheap, even second hand axis guitars??(bearing in mind im in the UK) Anyway cheers for the help, but about the lubrication of the nut thing, do i just litrally, put a moderate ammount of vaseline in the string crevises and bobs yor uncle, better tuning stabability????

 

[Norrin Radd]

In all honesty, if I had to have an Axis S/S/S with a floyd, I'd buy an Axis, get a pickguard made, and route it out for the middle pickup - less risky than trying to mount a locking nut on a finished neck...

Why not just buy one of these?

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

If you can afford it, do the mod. If its what you are after - go for it!