Difference in sounding BFR F1 and JP6????

[lpcoco]

Hi everyone,

First,
I am in the way to purchase a BFR F1 or a standard JP. I tried a BFR-F1 6 strings and a JP7. Those are the only one that the store have in hand. I found that the BFR had a tone more clearly, richer and tight than the JP7 have. The JP7 sound to me more "dief"(sourd). I believe that it can be due to the fact that D-Sonic is inverted on the JP7.

What are the differences in the tone and sound of a BFR F1 6 strings and a JP6?
Is there any sound clip that I can hear?

Secondo,
What is the best way to connect the piezo without an accoustic amp.

Thank's

 

[Headstock]

Not a direct answer to your question, but the absolute first difference that jumped right out at me within 15 seconds of playing my BFR was the sustain. I felt it was stronger on the BFR than the std JP6. It was an insane difference IMHO.

 

[petruccirocks02]

I used to own a MD JP6 that Big Tony now owns. After that I got the BFR JP6 and immediately the second I struck a huge open chord I could tell that the BFR sounded BeeFieR and had way more sustain and low end. It also seemed that its way more comfortable than the regular JP6. Another thing is that the neck seemed just a bit thicker than the standard JP6, probably due to the paint, but it feels great. I think the BFR smokes the regular JP.

-Phil

 

[Rossie]

A few friends commented that the BFR is sorta like a super-les-paul...
The beefy/thick tone reminds them one...

I normally connect the piezo out to the mixer if there's no acoustic amp...

 

[Lou]

Fatter, more harmonicly rich than a standard JP. You can't go wrong either way. Think of the BFR as a blinged out JP. Both have plenty of tone.

 

[zif]

The BFR does indeed have significantly more bass (which is a good thing). I had to bump back most of my EQ settings a notch or two as I usually play distorted.

 

[MusicManJP6]

Man, threads like this make the wait for my Tobacco Burst JP6 BFR so much harder!!

 

[lpcoco]

Thank's to all of you for you're answers.

To invert the D-Sonic on the BFR-F1 7 strings, does it change something in the tone of the axe in comparison of a 6 string? I liked the tone of the 6 strings that I tried. I was not able to try a BFR-F1 7 strings to compare. I am in the indecision to opt for the purchase of one 6 or 7 strings.

Escuse me for my bad english

 

[Gywhard]

Thank's to all of you for you're answers.

To invert the D-Sonic on the BFR-F1 7 strings, does it change something in the tone of the axe in comparison of a 6 string? I liked the tone of the 6 strings that I tried. I was not able to try a BFR-F1 7 strings to compare. I am in the indecision to opt for the purchase of one 6 or 7 strings.

Escuse me for my bad english

Well I think the solution is not so hard depending on what you play.
If you have a 7string guitar it's alwats better to have a normal 6 string one cause the neck is really different from some points of view, not only widthness.
If this one will be your MAIN guitar and you don't play so much 7 string stuff, than go for the JP6.


PS: Italian, right?

 

[mesavox]

PS: Italian, right?

Quebec Canada... I'm guessing French...

As for the pickups..

I just got my 2007 JP7 which has the D sonic and it is quite different than the old JP7 pickup, and while I haven't a/b'd it to my Ibanez JP6, I can tell it's quite a different animal.

This doesn't help you too much in comparing the different directions, but I can give you some thoughts that I've had with mind over the last few days.

The reasoning behind the direction switch is quite apparent when you play the thing. It doesn't scream on the high notes like the Steve's Special... However, it's very gainy and dirty. I can only say that my first thought was... "Woah, this might be the ultimate 7 string pickup."

What's happening with the bar is how much string it senses. Just like a neck pickup senses more length of the string, the bar senses less length of the string when it's facing the bridge. So, I can only guess that with it turned away from the bridge on the 6 string, it's going to inherently have more bass response and be just a bit looser feeling. However... the wiring is totally different when you switch them, and I don't know how that affects the frequency response, and I don't know exactly how the bar's job differs from the pole pickup's job... I just know that part of the reason why John has it towards the bridge on the 7 is to ward off flabbiness on the 7th string, and to get a tighter sound overall.

It's a VERY hot pickup. LOUD.

The things I liked about it... Tight, growly, and very deep on the 7th string.

Things I didn't like about it... lacking the scream factor on high notes...almost too smooth up there which is odd, maybe just a bit too loud.

I'll know more when I do some AB this Sunday at rehearsal, but I thought those impressions might help you as far as what the regular JP7 sounds like.

I haven't played the 6 string with the D sonic yet, but I'm planning on getting one before the year is done... if my verdict is still the same where the Steve's Special verses D Sonic or modded Steve's Special are concerned, I'll pull the D Sonic out of it and grab a Steve's Special. The MMs are superior guitars to the Ibanez, but from all I've heard, played, and been able to surmise... I love the pickups in the old setup so much more, so I'll just have to get a regular SS and Air Norton. It's a minor thing, and they're so similar it's pretty hair splitting, but I can really feel and hear the difference. I think that's why JP offers his guitar as a starting point for other players... his hands aren't mine, and it's not surprising he might migrate a different direction than I would with pickups.

One thing I think all that endless babbling I just did might serve to demonstrate is that so much of this stuff is all about personal tastes and experience. Nothing any of us says will make up for getting all the configurations you mentioned in your hands and playing them and seeing what you like best.

The most important thing to remember is that you can't really go too awfully wrong with either because the quality is the important part... if you follow DT both on stage and on record, you'll not really notice this huge transition of pickup changes... there is so much layering and overdubbing and eqing etc. that things like that aren't so apparent. Getting great sounds is something good guitar players do with good gear. After that, it starts getting almost romantic, and you'll start finding it hard to even put into words what you are hearing and feeling out of your gear. That's where 90% of all these changes come from that the average person would never notice a difference in. lol

I will say this, as good as my JP7 sounds, if the BFR is even fatter and richer and all that... I can't even imagine how I'd react to it. lol