MrHyde
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Hey guys what are the advantages of having the pups direct mounted in the body?....more "wood" in the sound? more sustain? what?
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baimun
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There are as many different opinions on if it makes a difference in sound as there are who debate about "tonewoods".
I started direct mounting my pickups so I could keep them close without them rocking back and forth and possibly touching the strings... but I've grown to really like the directness and harmonics. There's so many other little tweaks I do to a guitar that it's difficult to accurately gauge how much sustain and harmonic content is there, but IMO it definitly helps.
I started direct mounting my pickups so I could keep them close without them rocking back and forth and possibly touching the strings... but I've grown to really like the directness and harmonics. There's so many other little tweaks I do to a guitar that it's difficult to accurately gauge how much sustain and harmonic content is there, but IMO it definitly helps.
MrHyde
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cool man, and yeah I have heard alot about tonewoods and stuff like that. I asked because I know that the JP has them like that and I think the luke too but im not shure about that
jazzbo jim
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Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure somebody will...) but..
I think the direct mount school of thought is consistent with the flush mount Floyd theory as espoused by EVH.
I agree with the Floyd but I personally feel the direct mount pups are more of a headache than a help.
That is, any height adjustments are rather annoying as shimming or routing is required.
Many VERY nice sounding guitars have been made with adjustable pups.
My $0.02
I think the direct mount school of thought is consistent with the flush mount Floyd theory as espoused by EVH.
I agree with the Floyd but I personally feel the direct mount pups are more of a headache than a help.
That is, any height adjustments are rather annoying as shimming or routing is required.
Many VERY nice sounding guitars have been made with adjustable pups.
My $0.02
MrHyde
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Excuse my ignorance man but whats the flush mount floyd theory?
Katana6506
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The "flush-mount Floyd" theory is the construction method EBMM uses to build the Axis when it's equipped with a Floyd Rose. The trem sits flat on the body when not in use, therefore transferring more vibration to the body and increasing sustain. You can't pull up on the trem, though, because the rout isn't recessed.
MrHyde
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OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH...................................... I see............... yeah that was exactly what I was thinking...
jazzbo jim
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Yup..
According to Eddie, the more ridgid, anchored and secured all the components were, the better the tone.
Actually, now that I think of it, I guess he should've played a neck-through-body guitar instead of a bolt-on, eh?
According to Eddie, the more ridgid, anchored and secured all the components were, the better the tone.
Actually, now that I think of it, I guess he should've played a neck-through-body guitar instead of a bolt-on, eh?
MrHyde
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well yeah that kinda makes sense with the whole theory......
MrHyde
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yeap thats a pro for the bolt on, if that guitar was a neck tru.....well lets just say that u got some wood for the cold winter nights
larryandrews said:i actually like the bolt on neck i dropped my G&L Legacy and the neck broke
and i was able to get one throught warranty and they just bolted it back on for me
How is dropping your guitar a warranty issue?
MrHyde
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jongitarz said:
busted!!!
jazzbo jim
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Leave it to Jon to jump in on the corporate line
Kidding Jon. ..how's it goin'?
BTW, I've been wondering what your take is on these dang hard mount pups...Do you think there are any significant sonic advantages to the hard mount pups? And while I'm at it..what the heck is the average spec for string to pup distance on the Axis SS?
I need to lower my pups and I'd like to get in the ballpark rather than doing it twice!
Kidding Jon.
..how's it goin'?BTW, I've been wondering what your take is on these dang hard mount pups...Do you think there are any significant sonic advantages to the hard mount pups? And while I'm at it..what the heck is the average spec for string to pup distance on the Axis SS?
I need to lower my pups and I'd like to get in the ballpark rather than doing it twice!
Antoine
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I would like to know this too, because after several action settings for no fret buzz, i don't remenber the original distance ?jazzbo jim said:
Can you give the distance for the Luke too john ?
Antoine
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Is there someone at EB for answering my request ?
Tim O'Sullivan
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I am sure it does make a difference, but I suspect that its quite subtle. By the time your guitar is in the mix, I doubt that anyone other than yourself could notice the difference!
Antoine
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I'm very happy with my 2 guitars, they are the best guitars i've ever played, and their tones are so good that i can't play another ones, i'm a EB/MM player only since i have bought my Luke in 1999 and i can't imagine playing something else !!!
i just want to have some informations about the way their setting were when they have leaved the factory !
Best tones, best neck, best design, EB/MM addict for ever !!!
i just want to have some informations about the way their setting were when they have leaved the factory !
Best tones, best neck, best design, EB/MM addict for ever
!!!
mightypudge
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If I recall correctly, the direct-mounted pickup hype was started a long time ago by Eddie Van Halen. He mutilated the original pickguard of his Strat so he could bolt an old Gibson PAF humbucker to the body. He claimed it provided better sustain, and usually what he said people believed. Remember the "string boiling" craze? Pure BS, but since EVH said it...
In any event, I've played dozens of guitars in the past twenty years that had incredible sustain, all with pickups mounted in the pickguard or pickup rings. I've also played some real dogs that had direct-mounted pickups. The wood and construction (as well the player) have a lot more to do with sustain than how the pickups are mounted to the guitar.
In any event, I've played dozens of guitars in the past twenty years that had incredible sustain, all with pickups mounted in the pickguard or pickup rings. I've also played some real dogs that had direct-mounted pickups. The wood and construction (as well the player) have a lot more to do with sustain than how the pickups are mounted to the guitar.
