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WOW!!!!!!! I've been listening to the Train of Thought album. These guys are incredible!! I remember Pull Me Under but that was the extend of my knowledge of Dream Theatre. Where the hell have I been all these years, :confused: that I could miss all this great music!!!!!!!! Time to catch up!!
 
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Yeah, that is a great album. I have all of their stuff. Good music. JP can really make you scratch your head sometimes too...hehehehe.... :cool:
 

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francric said:
WOW!!!!!!! I've been listening to the Train of Thought album. These guys are incredible!! I remember Pull Me Under but that was the extend of my knowledge of Dream Theatre. Where the hell have I been all these years, :confused: that I could miss all this great music!!!!!!!! Time to catch up!!

You've missed alot of time, it's time to catch up. Get their Live dvd - Live In Budokan. Fantastic concert, they are at the top of their field.

Train of Thought is a great album, it got alot of abuse from DT fans, as they thought it was a Nu-Metal album, but it's a full on Prog/metal album and it's kick ass.

I'm currently learning to play stream of consciousness, and there are a couple of head scratching parts in there. Ah well it's better than learning the new 3 doors down song for my band, zzzzzz, how many times can they use the chord progression Bm, G, A. :mad:

Scott.
 

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Hehe.

Better yet...go see them when they come around. The Budokan DVD just went platinum in the US (100,000 copies sold is PLAt for DVDs)...Falling into Infinity usually gets panned as weak too....but there's a couple of good tracks on there too (Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand, New Millenium, Hollow Years, Take AWay My pain....), plus I have the B Sides from that record that they never released there were a couple of dope ones there too.
 

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Hehe.

Better yet...go see them when they come around. The Budokan DVD just went platinum in the US (100,000 copies sold is PLAt for DVDs)...Falling into Infinity usually gets panned as weak too....but there's a couple of good tracks on there too (Trial of Tears, Lines in the Sand, New Millenium, Hollow Years, Take AWay My pain....), plus I have the B Sides from that record that they never released there were a couple of dope ones there too.


Where did you get these B-sides from???

Scott.
 

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...ah, I remember that day, 4 years ago, when I had only heard Pull Me Under and Burning My Soul. That was my extent of DT.

I have seen the light, and it is good...I would suggest to our newfound friend francric to go break ya off some more and enjoy. :)

Later....
 

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...ah, I remember that day, 4 years ago, when I had only heard Pull Me Under and Burning My Soul. That was my extent of DT.

I have seen the light, and it is good...I would suggest to our newfound friend francric to go break ya off some more and enjoy. :)

Later....

AMEN!!!!!!!!!
 

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slukather said:
Where did you get these B-sides from???

Scott.

I picked mine up from a local music store. Record and Tape Traders in Baltimore. They usually showed up after the release of the CD's. I have about 5 or 6 from Dream Theater.

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francric said:
WOW!!!!!!! I've been listening to the Train of Thought album. These guys are incredible!! I remember Pull Me Under but that was the extend of my knowledge of Dream Theatre. Where the hell have I been all these years, :confused: that I could miss all this great music!!!!!!!! Time to catch up!!

I stumbled on to them in the last year, and felt exactly the same way - where the h@ll have I been?!?

While TOT is a great album, I would suggest both Scenes from a Memory, and Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (disc 2) as their absolute best IMHO. If you could see yourself digging a true prog concept album, that at times might remind you of a musical score, albiet brilliantly, you might really love these two. Someone else might describe them better, but they become more brilliant the more you listen to 'em.

They alternate in my cd player constantly, moreso than any other.

Izzy
 

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Scenes is one of my alltime albums ever.Amazing album.

Live at budokun is great aswell,I nearly choked when they started playing ZAPPA !!
:D Jordan Rudess' musical sense of humor live is great.
 

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Does anyone know if all the tunes or some of the tunes on Train of thought are in standard tuning or a alternate tuning????? A break down of each song would really be cool if anyone has that info. THX.
 

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Does anyone know if all the tunes or some of the tunes on Train of thought are in standard tuning or a alternate tuning????? A break down of each song would really be cool if anyone has that info. THX.

The ones l know are.

Endless sacrifice - full step down
This dying soul - is on a 7 string (standard tuning)
Stream Of Consciousness - Half a step down (6 string)

Those are all l've tried to learn at the moment.

Try www.powertabs.com l use it from time to time, it's pretty cool.

Scott.
 

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Well I feel embarrassed but, here goes...back in the late 80's early 90's I dropped out of sight completely...stopped playing guitar, got married and I stopped listening to music (the Maiden break up had alot to do with it)...so I guess I missed the entire ride with Dream Theatre...until recently (I mean even before buying an EBMM and obviously knowing full well who JP was) when I kept hearing about this Petrucci fellow, and Dream Theatre...well too make along story short and with the help of the EBMM coomercial free radio, all I can say is that these guys RULE, and John SMOKES...I love his work with Rudess (or whatever sorry)...anyhoo I have alot of catching up to do...L8R!
 

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Raz said:
Well I feel embarrassed but, here goes...back in the late 80's early 90's I dropped out of sight completely...stopped playing guitar, got married and I stopped listening to music (the Maiden break up had alot to do with it)...so I guess I missed the entire ride with Dream Theatre...until recently (I mean even before buying an EBMM and obviously knowing full well who JP was) when I kept hearing about this Petrucci fellow, and Dream Theatre...well too make along story short and with the help of the EBMM coomercial free radio, all I can say is that these guys RULE, and John SMOKES...I love his work with Rudess (or whatever sorry)...anyhoo I have alot of catching up to do...L8R!

Are you talking about that album John and Jordan did together "An Evening With John Petrucci & Jordan Rudess" or the work John and Jordan do in Dream Theater, or the LTE albums. Cause personally when they had Derek in the band, you could see the band falling apart, they even mention this on one of there dvd commentaries. But Derek wited to play backing guitars on some of the songs, and l just couldn't see that happening. And now to my point, then Jordan joined the band and they got a big boost of energy, the song writing got so much better, the band became more back to Images and words/awake when Kevin Moore was in the band.Not to mention Jordan is a killer keyboard player.

Scott.
 

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francric said:
Does anyone know if all the tunes or some of the tunes on Train of thought are in standard tuning or a alternate tuning????? A break down of each song would really be cool if anyone has that info. THX.

Check out the video on the Ernie Ball site where JP test drives the 'Not Even Slinky' strings... he plays some riffs from the Train of Thought album, and he is tuned way down.. maybe to 'C' or something? I can't remember, but watch that video and you'll find out where he is tuned.
 

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Are you talking about that album John and Jordan did together "An Evening With John Petrucci & Jordan Rudess" or the work John and Jordan do in Dream Theater, or the LTE albums. Cause personally when they had Derek in the band, you could see the band falling apart, they even mention this on one of there dvd commentaries. But Derek wited to play backing guitars on some of the songs, and l just couldn't see that happening. And now to my point, then Jordan joined the band and they got a big boost of energy, the song writing got so much better, the band became more back to Images and words/awake when Kevin Moore was in the band.Not to mention Jordan is a killer keyboard player.

Scott.
An Evening With...way cool!
 

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An Evening With...way cool!

I thought that was the album you were talking about, it is a killer album, not really for the faint of heart, as it is just guitar/keyboards thing. But John and Jordan seem to work well together, l'd even say the current line up of Dream Theater can't be beat.

Scott.
 

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Check out the video on the Ernie Ball site where JP test drives the 'Not Even Slinky' strings... he plays some riffs from the Train of Thought album, and he is tuned way down.. maybe to 'C' or something? I can't remember, but watch that video and you'll find out where he is tuned.

Yeah that video is pretty sweet, he is tuned down to C.

Scott.
 
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