EBMM EVH Prices...wich is the difference?

[Steel Edge]

Hi to everybody, this is my first post on this forum so....my presentation.

Im SteelEdge, from Spain, I´ve been wishing to have an EBMM EVH since some years ago, and now I have the opportunity of gettin one.

My question is....wich is an average price for an EBMM EVH???

I´ve seen a few for sale with prices from $4500 to $2100.

All of them are EBMM EVH, not the Axis.

Why are prices so different???

I´ve seen a couple of ambers in quilt, ambers in flame,quiltred blue top, transparent red...

I thought $2500/$2800 was a good price, but so many EBMM EVH at so differents prices get me confused.....

How can I know if a EBMM EVH has a good price???

 

[Astrofreq]

What color/condition is the one you are looking at? that will make a huge difference.

 

[Steel Edge]

Amber Flametop: $2400

Amber Quilt: $3250

Quilted Teal Blue Top: $3550

Wich are the most valuable colors/ finishes and wich are the cheapest??

 

[mantrarock]

Bienvenido Steel Edge!

I believe pink is one of the rarest/most expensive.

 

[joe web]

in germany some EVH hab been sold via "the bay" for about 1500.- euros.
one blue quilttop for 1500.- euros
one red flametop for 1390.- euros
one red quilttop for 1450.- euros

sometimes you can really get one "cheap".

 

[Steel Edge]

MM...I´ll have to search in ebay deutchsland...

Anyway...wich finish is more expensive, quilt or maple??

What about colors???

 

[Mikey]

All finishes are maple. The difference is quilt or flame top.

I think the most expensive ones are pink and green. But I'm sure there are some experts around knowing better than me. Hopefully they chime in...

 

[Brand X]

My mate had a pink one and got rid of it for next to nothing......d'oh. I love when the finish on the purple ones has faded - that looks great.....

 

[threeminutesboy]

solid black and gold are around $9000

Then Green and pink

Hardtail are pretty rare too (less than 600 in total) see below for more details

Production Figures - According to someone who should know at Music Man, they produced approximately 6000 of these guitars from approximately January of 1990 to September of 1995 when the last one rolled out the door. The estimate was about 1,200 per year although that would put the number closer to 7,000. This is a recently provided number. They don't give out an exact number. I personally believe it is a little higher than this when you look at the serial number run but that is nothing more than my guess.

How Rare is the Color? The most common colors are red, gold (amber), blue and purple with about 1400 of each. This includes the stop tails as approximately 200 of the red, purple and amber were stop tails (about 600 total of these). There are about 600 trans black and 600 sunburst. I am not sure on the Natural but I would say 400 is a good guess. They only made about 200 pink. Green is said to be the third rarest color with 96 total pieces produced. The rarest color is solid black at 16 pieces, followed by solid gold at 26 pieces. These figures come from a very knowledgeable collector who got them from Music Man years ago and from another collector who for the most part had the same figures. I can't say for sure that they are correct but I think they are at least close.

Serial Number Surprise - The serial numbers on the Music Man guitars are NOT consecutive. You can't tell the day, month and year the guitar was produced by looking at the serial number. The reason is that MM had the serial number plates produced all at once and they came back from the supplier out of order and MM didn't think it was worthwhile to put them in order. So they just used them somewhat randomly. Also, some serial number plates that had quality problems or got scratched were never used. The only way to positively identify the production date is to ask MM. They can type the serial number into their computer and get the date of production. I have these for my guitars below. You can see that although my serial numbers are in different ranges, all the guitars turned out to be from 1995 with the Natural and Sunburst models being two of the last ones built at the end of September 1995 when they ceased production. It makes sense that the ones that are like new would be from 1995 as once people realized they were going away they started collecting them. Peavey puts the Wolfgang serial numbers in the headstock as they produce them so they would not have this problem with serial numbers out of order.

Dye (color) Issues - Ever wondered why you will see the same color EVH MM but the colors look very different. According to a tech at Ernie Ball who works on these guitars Music Man used a dye for a long time that was subject to extreme fading and it could happen very quickly. In as little as 6 to 12 months an amber (gold) guitar could completely loose its pigment and look like a Natural. He said he has seen cases where it is impossible to tell the original color was gold. He says the resulting natural look is very cool and really shows off the wood but it is very different. The only way to know the guitar was originally gold is to look it up in the computer and see what it was built as. The "aqua" color is a result of ageing on a trans-blue. Now I like the aqua color in many cases but the bottom line is that they didn't make this color. Ever seen a red one advertised as a unique color such as "dusky rose". This the same effect. The Ernie Ball tech said he just had a purple one in that looked like a trans black. Even after they switched to a different dye he said the guitars will still fade based on their exposure to UV although not as badly as the earlier ones. I have yet to see a purple one that hasn't faded except a new old stock guitar that was left in its case. Peavey developed a UV blocker they put in their paint that keeps this from happening on the Wolfgangs. It isn't in the first year Wolfgangs though, although I have not seen anywhere near the kind of fading in these as the MM's.

Is it Really Green, Solid Gold or Solid Black? - Before paying a lot of money for a "rare" color EVH Music Man I would check with Ernie Ball to see what the serial number shows it was originally built as. Ernie Ball has been approached by people looking to re-paint their EVH MM Green, Solid Gold, or Solid Black. Ernie Ball will refuse to do it but that doesn't mean it can't be done someplace else!

 

[threeminutesboy]

MM...I´ll have to search in ebay deutchsland...

Anyway...wich finish is more expensive, quilt or maple??

What about colors???

forgot to mention I got mine from Ebay Germany for 1200 Euros pritine condition

 

[Spudmurphy]

I too have an EVH hardtail the same as threeminute boy.

Over here I have seen floyd EVH's for sale at £1600.
I also saw the same hardtail as mine for sale in London for £1850.
I paid £1000 for mine.

Welcome to the forum and I hope you stick around.

 

[Jonny Dubai]

I am selling my purple one soon for 1500 pounds.


J

 

[Steel Edge]

I was looking at this one, but I think it´s overpriced, IMHO:

ERNIE BALL MUSICMAN EVH,BEAUTIFUL QUILTED TEAL BLUE TOP - eBay (item 150279714924 end time Aug-12-08 18:15:17 PDT)

What do you guys think?

 

[Steel Edge]

And this one is quite cheaper than the quilted blue :

Ernie Ball Music Man Eddie Van Halen - eBay (item 280255305762 end time Aug-21-08 05:21:22 PDT)


Anyway, I think that EVH are overpriced....maybe I should go for an Axis like this:

1999 MUSICMAN ERNIE BALL AXIS W/ BEAUTIFUL QUILTED TOP - eBay (item 170249395403 end time Aug-17-08 13:24:40 PDT)

I like the quilted ambar top, just like Eddie´s.

 

[Sweat]

Now your getting the idea, while the tops on the EBMM are nice and there is some history and if you are a big VH fan well maybe thats what you want but at those prices you can get new and used Axis's much cheaper of get a couple for the same price, or get some BFR's or a few AL's etc. new for that much money, the last link looked nice.

 

[Steel Edge]

Now your getting the idea, while the tops on the EBMM are nice and there is some history and if you are a big VH fan well maybe thats what you want but at those prices you can get new and used Axis's much cheaper of get a couple for the same price, or get some BFR's or a few AL's etc. new for that much money, the last link looked nice.

I think you are right....

I´m a collector, I have like 30 guitars at home, but I´m not such an EVH fan for paying the EBMM EVH so pricey....

There´s a lot of Axis (the Floyd Rose is basic to me on this guitar) with quilted ambar tops or flamed for $1000/$1200, so I think I´m gonna grab an Axis, maybe the last one I linked in my last post....

 

[joe web]

at my local dealer, there is a used Axis with an amber (killer-) flametop for sale.
there are a dings and dongs on the back of the guitar, but it plays fine.
they are asking about 1050.- euros.
pm me, if you are interessted in. maybe they drop the price a bit down. let me know.

here is a picture of the guitar side by side with my black quilttop EVH:

 

[Steel Edge]

at my local dealer, there is a used Axis with an amber (killer-) flametop for sale.
there are a dings and dongs on the back of the guitar, but it plays fine.
they are asking about 1050.- euros.
pm me, if you are interessted in. maybe they drop the price a bit down. let me know.

here is a picture of the guitar side by side with my black quilttop EVH:

Looks good, but it´s expensive for what I´m seeing in Ebay.

I can get this one (MINT) for $1450 (approx. 975 Eur),and is a Quilt Top, wich are usually more expensive than flame ones (isn´t it?).

I think I´m gonna grab the one from Ebay.

What do you think guys about that one?

 

[joe web]

but if you grab one from the US, you´ll have to pay import taxes and duty for it.
i only know the fees for germany, and it´s about 21,6% to add to the total amount (guitarprice plus shipping).

 

[Steel Edge]

Looks good, but it´s expensive for what I´m seeing in Ebay.

I can get this one (MINT) for $1450 (approx. 975 Eur),and is a Quilt Top, wich are usually more expensive than flame ones (isn´t it?).

I think I´m gonna grab the one from Ebay.

What do you think guys about that one?

I meant THIS ONE, sorry:

1999 MUSICMAN ERNIE BALL AXIS W/ BEAUTIFUL QUILTED TOP - eBay (item 170249395403 end time Aug-17-08 13:24:40 PDT)

What do you guys think about the price, color, etc???

Thanks in advance!!!