EBMM Fretwork... How on earth???

whitestrat · Mar 1, 2009

Most "production" guitars you find on the market would have some dressing at least on the frets. And they're not all shiny.

EBMM frets are smooth, rounded, and shiny.

How do they do it? Are the frets recrowned AFTER fretting? How do they ensure leveled frets when I think no one can 100% guarantee that a neck can come out fully straight? How come you don't get fret-out situations on unlevelled frets (if that's what they are)?

Anyone? BP? Care to share?

spkirby · Mar 2, 2009

Nice fretwork for sure Teo but that is an inappropriate post...it's like telling your wife that her sister is hotter...

fbecir · Mar 2, 2009

It's always possible to do better, perfection does not exist.
In fact, I was not impressed with the fret job of my Morse : it was simply perfect

but it is normal, the Morse is an expensive guitar
But I was really impressed by my SUB : Music Man succeeded to produce a middle priced guitar with a fret job of an high priced guitar. Hats Off !

whitestrat · Mar 2, 2009

fbecir said:
It's always possible to do better, perfection does not exist.
In fact, I was not impressed with the fret job of my Morse : it was simply perfect but it is normal, the Morse is an expensive guitar
But I was really impressed by my SUB : Music Man succeeded to produce a middle priced guitar with a fret job of an high priced guitar. Hats Off !

I guess that's a piece to piece issue... I had 10 balls... 4 of them were bought brand new... None of them had any fret issues... The other 6 I have are used, and there's some fretwear, so I can't count those...

Jack FFR1846 · Mar 2, 2009

Teo,

As much as those rounded end frets "look" very nice, think of an Axis. Very narrow neck. The whole fret is used while playing. If the same "nice" rounded end frets were used with either binding or more fingerboard beyond the fret end, it would be a wider neck. Sort of wasted space, in my opinion.

jack

lenny · Mar 2, 2009

teokiatuan said:
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Dude ....get some manners man!!!!!

threeminutesboy · Mar 2, 2009

lenny said:
Dude ....get some manners man!!!!!

Ouch !!!!!

but I agree with lenny

DrGonzo5150 · Mar 2, 2009

Pretty unnecessary...I'm going to go out on a limb and call Troll...
Urban Dictionary: troll

dstockden · Mar 2, 2009

Jack FFR1846 said:
Teo,

As much as those rounded end frets "look" very nice, think of an Axis. Very narrow neck. The whole fret is used while playing. If the same "nice" rounded end frets were used with either binding or more fingerboard beyond the fret end, it would be a wider neck. Sort of wasted space, in my opinion.

jack

very good point about the width

rookiehwm · Mar 2, 2009

Does anyone besides me notice how close the high E is to the edge of the fretboard on that pic? I mean they're practically one in the same.

Big Poppa · Mar 2, 2009

They are polished after dressing.....

Jason2112 · Mar 2, 2009

Teo - while your comment may be slightly lost in translation (I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), you are comparing apples and oranges. The frets on your Ibanez look nice, but when you've got that much fret material to work with, it give you the illusion of superior fretwork. However, somewhere there's a railroad track missing a few feet of rail and I bet I know where it went....

teokiatuan · Mar 2, 2009

Sad to see my post was removed.

I put up that picture just to illustrate that there was also good fretwork
being put out by other manafacturers...

As for the axis issue, the fretwork could've been 'straight' in that guitars
case to accomodate for the narrow neck.

I think the removal was uncalled for, since i obviously meant no harm,(i only own balls for goodness sake) and was just trying to bring up good work by other brands,and perhaps a thing that eb could incoporate into their guitars.

But i guess eb isn't interested in the idea...

That isn't my ibanez by the way.
and also i sincerely apologise to offended parties.

Jason2112 · Mar 2, 2009

teokiatuan said:
Sad to see my post was removed.

I put up that picture just to illustrate that there was also good fretwork
being put out by other manafacturers...

I don't think anyone would dispute that, but here's some food for thought:

- OP didn't ask for examples of fretwork from other builders, he was simply asking how EBMM frets were prepped

- BP and the members of this board are sensitive to certain non-EBMM material being posted. (that's all I'm gonna say about that)

Don't take it too personal. You own EBMM guitars, you can't be all that bad

hedkutter18 · Mar 2, 2009

Jason2112 said:
- BP and the members of this board are sensitive to certain non-EBMM material being posted.

Especially considering EBMM is fronting the cost for hosting fees, providing services like DOB/registration (My serial # thread), MM's for sale (where you could easily save some coin buying from a fellow forumite), etc. So for someone to come on here and post other competitor's product is almost like slapping someone's mom.

Though, I understand what you were trying to do man. Just remember that there are FAQ's in the forums, and that is specifically stated as a no-no.

No hard feelings.

Big Poppa · Mar 2, 2009

It shouldnt be taken wrong...it just doesnt fit....its a hijack at best... White strat wasnt asking for examples of other companies fret work.....I guess its like telling your wife that you like her sisters body better....

teokiatuan · Mar 2, 2009

whitestrat said:
Most "production" guitars you find on the market would have some dressing at least on the frets. And they're not all shiny.

EBMM frets are smooth, rounded, and shiny.

How do they do it? Are the frets recrowned AFTER fretting? How do they ensure leveled frets when I think no one can 100% guarantee that a neck can come out fully straight? ?

the message i got was that most other 'production' factories could not pull 'smooth, rounded and shiny' fretwork.. i was merely showing him an example of one that could. i don't think that's out of line, is it?

well that's all i have to say on the matter,
till later,
cheers and peace out.

Big Poppa · Mar 2, 2009

One of the problems with the internet and forums is that somebody has to shape it and pay for it. If they do a good job they get their message across.

How you shape it is what you allow. I have to draw the line in a few places...religion, nudity, politics and other manufacturers gear. There a thousands of open forums to discuss this stuff. It isnt a paranoid position but one of focus....It has to be focused on our stuff and if everyone posts examples of others work what is the point of me posting and how many diehards would stop hanging here...

rookiehwm · Mar 2, 2009

Big Poppa said:
One of the problems with the internet and forums is that somebody has to shape it and pay for it. If they do a good job they get their message across.

How you shape it is what you allow. I have to draw the line in a few places...religion, nudity, politics and other manufacturers gear. There a thousands of open forums to discuss this stuff. It isnt a paranoid position but one of focus....It has to be focused on our stuff and if everyone posts examples of others work what is the point of me posting and how many diehards would stop hanging here...

Well said BP! We really do appreciate the forums you host for us and you taking time out to respond to us!

whitestrat · Mar 2, 2009

Big Poppa said:
They are polished after dressing.....

Hmm... interesting... So they ARE dressed to a certain extent... Thanks for that!!!

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