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beej

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yesandno said:
the stock SM ... No balls, no sustain, no liquididty.

Wow- I don't doubt you, but that's really odd. It has very decent output. Maybe you've got a dud, wiring problems (like coils are in parallel), or the height is set too low? Even if you're not crazy about the sound, it should definitely be much hotter.
 

tommyindelaware

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there's something wrong somewhere.....

a typical single coil puts out around 80-100 milivolts
a typical stock humbucker puts out on an average of 200 milivolts.
a morse bridge typically put out about450 milivolts.
yer wiring.........or yer pickup is bad.


yesandno said:
While I was doing my longwinded post some more posted.

I'm sure Mhorse has the right story about Bill Lawrence.

You see, some of you guys say the SM pups are powerful. This is what happened to me when I got the guitar. The short version is that when I plugged the guitar into the amps I own...at gain/high gain settings, the stock SM basically sounded as if I was just overdriving the amp mildly. No balls, no sustain, no liquididty.
I'd compare....plug my stock fenders (pre-bill lawrence) with the same settings...and ballsy screaming high gain city! Smooth, too as compared to the SM pups which was more choppy and grainy. I don't know why, I can't expalin it, it just is(was). So I replaced them, and I got what I thought the guitar SHOULD have sounded like out of the box, so to speak. Nobody was more perplexed than me because this guitar was made to shred and it just made my amps fart.
 

yesandno

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Tommy, after I got the guitar I talked to them about it. I also told them that the fret edges were rough and they told me to send it back, which I did. They filed the frets and said that the pickups and all the electronics were in proper working condition. Those stock pups , for whatever reason, just were not working for me. I wish I had the spare disposable cash to get another SM. I'd be curious to see if it would sound any different. Come to think of it, I think EBMM will sell all the parts so you can assemble a new pickguard w/pups + electronics yourself.
Thats something SM owners can think about since everything is assembled right on the pickguard...just pop a new one on. Have a couple of different favorite pickup configurations available.
 
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