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poit57

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I have a Stingray that is about two years old. I have a question about the electronics concerning a ground hum.

So here's my situation: Most of my playing is done at my church. I play through a Sansamp DI powered by phantom power from the soundboard. This building is about 15 years old and was just completely remodeled 2 years ago to convert our gymnasium into an auditorium (just to give you an idea of how current the electrical system is). When I am not touching anything metal on the bass, it gives off a slight hum. If I touch anything metal (control knobs, the control plate, bridge, strings, tuners, or jack plate) the hum goes away.

When I practice at home, I do not hear a hum from my bass. At home, I either play through a Gallien-Krueger MB200 amp head which is connected from the direct out to my computer recording mixer (no speaker because the cab is stored at church) or I play through an MXR M-80 DI connected to my mixer. Again, there is no hum when my bass is hooked up through either of these pieces of equipment.

Back at the church, I went to practice by myself today in our old auditiorium playing only through my aforementioned MB200 amp with my speaker cab. The hum was terrible. When I touched the metal parts on my bass, the hum would get quieter, but never completely went away like it does in the new auditiorium. Back when we used the old auditiorium for church services, we always had sound issues stemming from what I assume were grounding issues in the electrical system. I have completely different equipment now, so the problems are presenting themselves differently. Anyway, we still use this area occasionally for various events, so I was wondering if there were any suggestions for how to eliminate the buzz from my bass. At first, I thought I had a grounding issue in the bass itself, but since it varies depending on where I am playing, I don't thing that is the case anymore. Oh, and one more thing, when playing in the old auditorium I plug my amp into a Furman power conditioner, but that doesn't seem to have any effect on whatever electrical issues we are dealing with. Can anyone help with this situation?
 

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If your bass - and this goes for any bass, not just our faves - hums in one environment and not in others, then environmental factors are at play. The list of possible gremlins - fluorescent lights, dimmer switches, bad outlets, bad POWER, ungrounded stuff lying about - is too huge to cover. But an internal loose ground wire on a bass is not intermittent. It's either grounded or it's not, so I suspect (very much) that your bass is fine. You're thinking right about this. Look at the environment.
 

Rick Auricchio

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A power conditioner won't improve a ground problem. An easy test is to get a low-cost outlet tester and check the power outlet. The outlet may not be properly wired.
 

poit57

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My problem is solved, and I feel like kinda dumb for not realizing this much sooner. I was plugging into an extension cord which I thought was plugged into a power conditioner set up behind the stage that the power amps and soundboard were plugged into. I traced the extension cord and found out it was actually plugged into a lighting dimmer pack. I just plugged into a wall outlet across the room and the hum issue went away. Thanks for the help, guys.
 
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