EVH and axis pups are not the same?

[axisboldaslove]

I did a search here and many have said they feel that the custom wound dimarzios pups in the EVH are not exactly the same as the axis dimarzio's???
I though THE ONLY difference was the axis pups are 4 conductor and the evh were 3 wire?
but i am reading here that some say the evh dimarzios are warmer and creamier?

 

[Norrin Radd]

I did a search here and many have said they feel that the custom wound dimarzios pups in the EVH are not exactly the same as the axis dimarzio's???
I though THE ONLY difference was the axis pups are 4 conductor and the evh were 3 wire?
but i am reading here that some say the evh dimarzios are warmer and creamier?

They are the same pickups. It says so in the FAQ on the EBMM main page:

http://www.ernieball.com/faq_content.php?subjectcode=mm_guitars

And here is the relevant text:

"Q: What are the differences between the old Edward Van Halen signature guitar and the model that took its place, the Axis?

A: When Eddie left Ernie Ball/Music Man in 1995, the decision was made to keep the guitar in production pretty much the same as when it was the Eddie Van Halen guitar. All of the design, including the neck, pickups, and woods used are the same, but we made a few improvements:

1. The neck was widened slightly (1/32") at the body end. This was to correct problems for players who were having trouble with the high E string slipping off the neck on the 12th fret and up.

2. The switch was moved near the volume knob. This was done to help prevent accidental hitting of the switch, especially while strumming.

3. The "tone" knob was replaced by a volume knob (NOTE: it was always a volume pot - the "tone" knob was a sort of joke).

4. We added a comfort contour (a belly cut) to the top and back of the body. "

 

[beej]

Same p'ups ... more wires ...

 

[lock-ny]

It might be from other aspects if the guitar but I her a difference between them for sure -

 

[hbucker]

Generally, the people who say they are different are EVH owners. The people who say there is no difference and that if there are any differences, they are actually improvements are Axis owners.

If you're comparing them in the actual guitars, side by side, I'd say the fairest comparison would be between the EVH and Axis. Not the Axis Super Sport, etc. The addition of tone knobs and circuitry can color the basic tone of a guitar to the extent that the same pickups can sound somewhat different.

Combine that with the fact that no two guitars are completely identical and you have enough room for these arguments to grow legs.

While I've heard and felt differences between the Axis and my EVH, I do believe it's due to reasons stated above and not because they actually changed the formula of the pickups themselves. And don't forget, the youngest EVH's are over 10 years old now. If you're comparing a new Axis to any EVH, you're going to start running into the age factor playing a part in coloring the EVH tone.

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

When I ordered a replacement bridge pickup a long time ago, it was marked EVH/Axis. They are the same apart from the extra wires on the modern pickups.

 

[threeminutesboy]

Axis SS hardtail vs EVH Hardtail - Of course, part of its the guitar itself (the EVH was lighter) but to me- the EVH was even more transparent and a touch greasier than the Axis SS pups. Both killed though.

I have both and they sound different but I reckon that bridge PUP is closer to the string on the EVH than the ASS and this may influence the sound a lot

 

[Eilif]

EBMM have stated that the EVH and Axis pickups are the same. (With the obvious exception of the Axis SS that comes with the MM90.) If you believe that they are not the same, how do you reconcile that belief with EBMM's statement?

I strongly disagree with the statement that axis and evh pickups are the same. Even Axis pups are not the same.

 

[Jim Warnstedt]

Not trying to hi jack the thread, but does anyone have a set of Axis pick ups or EVH pick ups that they want to sell? PM me please. Thanks!

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

Not trying to hi jack the thread, but does anyone have a set of Axis pick ups or EVH pick ups that they want to sell? PM me please. Thanks!

Keep an eye on Ebay, the come up from time to time...

 

[steve10358]

Thats fine. I'm not going to argue with you.

 

[Big Poppa]

There is no reason to lie to anyone and really no reason to call us liars. A floyd guitar sounds different regardless what pickups are in it.

 

[steve10358]

No- that's fine. You dont have to justify anything. Who knows why I heard or felt what I did... but I am not going to argue with you on your message board. You make the things. Who am I to tell YOU how YOU make them?

I am just happy that I own one and apologize for being a little dry in my introductery posts here.

Have a good one.

 

[Big Poppa]

great now lets get down to brass tacks...are buffalo wings really from bufffalo?

 

[bovinehost]

I think we can say with some degree of confidence - like 100 percent - that if the guy how has the final word on everything to do with the instruments says the pickups are the same, then they are indeed the same.

There's really no reason to say they are if they aren't, and any improvements to any instruments along the way are, as far as I know and I know pretty far, touted as just that - improvements.

This thread is looking over the edge of the cliff.

Jack

 

[bovinehost]

great now lets get down to brass tacks...are buffalo wings really from bufffalo?

Don't get me started on chicken 'nuggets'.

 

[steve10358]

Yeah, they are from here. Although the best is Duff's, not Anchor Bar, IMO.
Want some dry iced to ya? They'll do that too.

S.

 

[Bass Control]

great now lets get down to brass tacks...are buffalo wings really from bufffalo?

From a buffalo? No.

From Buffalo, NY? Yes.

Am I biased? You bet!

 

[hbucker]

I own 7 guitars, one of them is an EVH. To be honest, all of my guitars, at times seem like they're different from what they were the day before. It's obviously my perceptions that have changed and not the guitars. Maybe that's what happens here.

The pickups are the same. But our shifting perceptions combined with normal differences in guitars combine to make this topic one that even worth discussing.

 

[azazael]

Its also feasible for pickups in the same guitars to have minor differences.
I sincerely doubt every pickup made in a line are all identical.