Question Floyd Rose Trem ????

[tonemeister]

Hey, folks. I`ll try to be brief as time is slippin`, slippin`, slippin` into the fooooo...whoops....flashback!
I am not a trem guy in general....but i see the value of having a nice trem guitar available for recording purposes. Vintage Fender style trems just dont do it for me.
The best floating trem I had was a Steinberger...it was real easy to "lock down" and play as a hardtail and stayed real well in tune overall.
I am considering opening my mind a little and checking out a Floyd.
This is my real ?????:

i know that a vintage style trem is easy to block / de-acitvate. If for long periods I might not "need" the Floyd trem, is there an established, approved way to block it and consequently free it to act as a trem? Would appreciate some input from the fine folks here. I love my AXIS SS ROSEWOOD so much that I am considering an AXIS ROSEWOOD for the trem guitar. Thanks, TM

 

[guitarman23]

the floyds are great, wanted to give my try at a y2d with a floyd then i bought one, and its amazing sound/play/feel!! highly recommend any music man.

 

[guertzi]

AFAIK, the Floyd on the Axis can only go down, no upward bends possible, because it rests on the top with its baseplate.

So there might be no need for you to block it.

 

[tonemeister]

AFAIK, the Floyd on the Axis can only go down, no upward bends possible, because it rests on the top with its baseplate.

So there might be no need for you to block it.

Well, there is a nice bit of info...thanks for that....not much point IMHO of having a trem that only goes down...Hmmmmmmm......anyone else wanna chime in? That was one of thethings I liked about the Steinberger....it went up & down & then locked with a lever and was perfectly in tune.
Before any one says "why dont you buy a Steiberger?" I would point out that they just dont make such a great product anymore and they also have a zero fret that is unstable when making wild minor/major third and perfect 4th bends. That is good info, though. I appreciate it.

 

[rockerjt]

As far as blocking, I really don't find a need. The tuning is stable, and the tone/sustain is excellent on it, as good as some of my Le$ Paul$. You can only push down anyway, so I am not sure you'd get any additional benefit from blocking, but maybe I am wrong.

 

[DrBob]

There is a product called a tremol-no or tremolo no ( I don't recall ). if you do a thread search I think that you'll find that someone here on the forum has fitted one to either a JP or a Luke. I think it might also work on a Floyd

 

[azazael]

Hey, folks. I`ll try to be brief as time is slippin`, slippin`, slippin` into the fooooo...whoops....flashback!
I am not a trem guy in general....but i see the value of having a nice trem guitar available for recording purposes. Vintage Fender style trems just dont do it for me.
The best floating trem I had was a Steinberger...it was real easy to "lock down" and play as a hardtail and stayed real well in tune overall.
I am considering opening my mind a little and checking out a Floyd.
This is my real ?????:

i know that a vintage style trem is easy to block / de-acitvate. If for long periods I might not "need" the Floyd trem, is there an established, approved way to block it and consequently free it to act as a trem? Would appreciate some input from the fine folks here. I love my AXIS SS ROSEWOOD so much that I am considering an AXIS ROSEWOOD for the trem guitar. Thanks, TM

The trem on your Axis supersport will be as good as a floyd for anything u want to do when its setup.
My Axis is setup for bridge to float and i have a tremsetter installed to make sure it returns to pitch and also gets rid of that warble that happens when I pick (I am quite a heavy picker). I have no reason to hardtail it as the tremsetter does an amazing job especially when doing country bends it keeps the rest of the strings in tune quite good which would not happen normally.

 

[DrBob]

Tremol-No™

There you go, try that see if it'll do what you want. I think that some people are even demoing it on You Tube

 

[rockerjt]

You could get a Luthier to route the guitar to pull up, but then you'd have to get something like a trem-stop for temporary locking/blocking. I used to think the same thing about this trem, but you get used to it and adjust your trem technique. BTW, the Steinberger has the transtrem, correct? The Floyd won't do the things that it does, so if you're used to that, you'll be very dissapointed at any other trem.

Well, there is a nice bit of info...thanks for that....not much point IMHO of having a trem that only goes down...Hmmmmmmm......anyone else wanna chime in? That was one of thethings I liked about the Steinberger....it went up & down & then locked with a lever and was perfectly in tune.
Before any one says "why dont you buy a Steiberger?" I would point out that they just dont make such a great product anymore and they also have a zero fret that is unstable when making wild minor/major third and perfect 4th bends. That is good info, though. I appreciate it.

 

[TonyEVH5150]

You could also get your hands on one of the older Silhouettes. They have Floyds, and are routed for pitch up or down, if that's what you're looking for. You would still need something like the tremsetter or Tremol-no.

Ernie Ball Musicman Silhouette Floyd Rare Mint NOS! - eBay (item 300251254326 end time Aug-24-08 19:50:56 PDT)

 

[tonemeister]

Tremol-No™

There you go, try that see if it'll do what you want. I think that some people are even demoing it on You Tube

Thanks, Doc! Maybe what I need is to check out other brands/models with a Rose that goes up & down. I will check this out. Thanks! TM

 

[tonemeister]

You could get a Luthier to route the guitar to pull up, but then you'd have to get something like a trem-stop for temporary locking/blocking. I used to think the same thing about this trem, but you get used to it and adjust your trem technique. BTW, the Steinberger has the transtrem, correct? The Floyd won't do the things that it does, so if you're used to that, you'll be very dissapointed at any other trem.

Thanks. I would hate to do any extra routing, etc. to An Axis, much less any other axe. The trem on the Steinberger was not a Trans-trem... if it had been I would have never let it go! It was a regular "R" type (?) trem. Thanks for the input! I will mull this over some more. Thanks, TM

 

[tonemeister]

You could also get your hands on one of the older Silhouettes. They have Floyds, and are routed for pitch up or down, if that's what you're looking for. You would still need something like the tremsetter or Tremol-no.

Ernie Ball Musicman Silhouette Floyd Rare Mint NOS! - eBay (item 300251254326 end time Aug-24-08 19:50:56 PDT)

Now that`s more like it! Very Nice! will the tremsetter and/or the Tremolo-no work on this term? Thanks! TM

 

[TonyEVH5150]

I think the tremsetter and tremol-no will both work on the EBMM Floyd.

 

[lumberjack]

Do yourself a favor. Take a look at the John Petrucci model. Absolutely amazing trem system. Floating style trem with no locking nut. Stays in tune incredibly well. Get yourself a Tremol-No like the guys suggested and your laughin'

Scott