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Codyyyn

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Alright, so clearly since many of you here own an EBMM guitar, I won't ask if you like gunstock oil....

But here's what I want to know -- how do you see it? Is it awesome as a finish for a neck, or just a necessary evil for such a smooth feeling neck? You tell me.

Is it dangerous in regards to humidity? The EB website calls it "unfinished", that makes me uneasy :D.
 

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Oil/Wax Finish

The oil/wax finish the Ernie Ball uses is great. Not only does is it provide a nice and smooth neck, but, it provides pretty good protection for the neck.

From what I've read here on the forum, most changes due to environmental conditions are easily remedied with a truss-rod adjustment. I've had my Axis for 10 months and it's been through a pretty cold and dry winter and a summer that's been very hot and humid at times and I haven't experienced any problems.

Also, I keep my guitar in the case when I'm not playing; I'm sure that probably helps a bit.

Joe
 

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IMO the oil and the wax is awesome. I like it a lot. I dont understand what could be dangerous about it. It feels and looks great and none of the necks on my instruments have gone "bad" on me. My oldest MM is 10 years old and the neck is A-OK.

I have never reoiled or rewaxed my oldest MM bass' neck (its like 5 or 6 years old). Its also im perfect playing order.

every once in a while you need to give the truss rod a quick 1/4 turn or so but i think thats no problem and the benefit of the super smoothe neck way outweighs the 30 second maintainance task
 

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I put some Birchwood Casey oil on my necks and they still feel great, plus, I sleep easier knowing that I have a little extra protection against dirt and oil (not that I need it as I have OCD so I'm a hand washer and my hands don't sweat, so I don't even leave fingerprints unless I handle greasy food) :)
 

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I play at home so before I go to play I wash my hands. No big deal and keeps my necks looking great :)
 

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Birchwood-Casey products are great.

The Stock Sheen polish and conditioner makes the neck even smoother.

I rewax every once in a while tho keep the neck protected and have had no problems.
 

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Where is a good place to buy the Birchwood Casey products? I have some neck maintenance to do and need to get started. I will use wonder wipes to clean the neck, then I want that extra smooth finish like they come new.
 

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Th oil/wax mix is, IMO, the best treatment for a neck ever. better than nitro, poly, and other "hard" treatments. The caveat to the oil/wax finish is that you might have to retreat it periodically. When I got my Albert Lee Model a few years back, the fretboard and neck were in less than desirable condition. I did some research with EBMM customer service and went to Bass Pro shops and bought some Birchwood-Casey gunstock oil and wax. I cleaned the neck with Murphy's wood soap and did the treatment. It was like brand new when I was done.

After that, I came here and wrote exactly how I had done the neck treatment; as others were wondering how to do it.
 

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EBMM and I now have a love hate relationship. I'm saving up again?!?! I literally just bought a new guitar about three weeks ago.... that's G.A.S. for you.
 

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Hey Larry, would you still lend a hand to get me a few bottles of these? :)

Yup - I need them. :D
 

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... But here's what I want to know -- how do you see it? Is it awesome as a finish for a neck, or just a necessary evil for such a smooth feeling neck? ....
Tru-Oil is an awesome finish period. It is actually a modified / polymerized linseed oil varnish. Its very much like what what has been used on fine instruments for hundreds of years.

And its also great for finishing other wood projects.
I'm building some of these Tru-Oil finished "treasure" boxes for nieces and nephew Christmas gifts this year.

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Hey Larry, would you still lend a hand to get me a few bottles of these? :)

Yup - I need them. :D

I didn't want to get stuck with 6 oils and 6 waxes...:eek: I thought you bailed on me and I wanted to get out before I was stuck with more Birchwood and Casey oil and wax to last me 3 lifetimes...
 

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You guys make it sound so awesome (understandably so), even if I would have to put gunstock oil on it once in a great while, that is indeed a small price to pay for such a nice feeling neck.


EBMM is definitely one of the last really awesome USA guitar companies.


This is probably a dumb question - but they're made on an assembly line, right?
 

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You guys make it sound so awesome (understandably so), even if I would have to put gunstock oil on it once in a great while, that is indeed a small price to pay for such a nice feeling neck.


EBMM is definitely one of the last really awesome USA guitar companies.


This is probably a dumb question - but they're made on an assembly line, right?

Made on assembly line with the best and most consistent hand finishing in the industry.

Consistently the best setup and dressed frets right out of the box. If there's a problem call customer service and it gets fixed.

When Albert Lee does a clinic he uses a guitar out of the local shop's inventory because the set up and strings are exactly like his own.
 

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To clarify the term assembly line... When I think of a assembly line I think of bunch of computers and robots all making circuit boards and computer parts... EBMM utilizes robots but in the same time there is more of a human touch... They use a robot called Ursula which buffs the guitar and bass bodies. Now anyone who has ever waxed a car knows that if a robot can do the tedious tiring and ultimately boring buffing. Now if a robot can do the same task at the same quality and consistancy of a human well thats just better for everyone :) I think that is EBMMs take on guitar bulding it too. But there is whole lot of human effort in making the guitars that a robot just can't touch I'm sure Big Poppa can give a better idea of what is involved.
 
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knj316

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EBMM Consistency

The EBMM necks are very awesome. I've yet to find someone that didn't like the way the neck was finished. I haven't went out and bought the Birchwood Casey products, yet. I have been using the Wonder Wipe treatment when I do string changes and my neck feels great and looks new.

Every EBMM Guitar I've ever picked up has been setup beautifully and sounded great. They really are pretty unmatched in terms of consistency, quality and value. Should you have an issue or question, contact the dealer, or, customer service and it's take care of...

Joe
 
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