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koogie2k
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There are sooooo many difficult songs to play on guitar. I do play classical, so I would say Segovia would difficult, Bach, and Mozart is certainly tough. Torrega and Fernando Sor will make you throw the guitar down for awhile. If you want a challenge, try to play this type of guitar. You will not be dissappointed. I find that when I practice at least one hour in this style, the electric stuff comes easier for me. Sweeps and some fast runs are a definite benefit for me.
As for using my Pets...Anything by Paul Gilbert is difficult. I have actually gotten a few of his tunes down, much time in practice was spent. Try Viking Kong, Superheroes, or any of his video lessons.
Steve Vai is another. Getting the notes to sing like him is my challenge.
Stevie Ray Vaughn....no need to explain.
The hardest song though for me was Jimi Hendrix's live version of "Machine Gun". I still have trouble and rightfully so.....this was a gift from a guitar god that I have the privilege to play (not as well as him I might add
As for using my Pets...Anything by Paul Gilbert is difficult. I have actually gotten a few of his tunes down, much time in practice was spent. Try Viking Kong, Superheroes, or any of his video lessons.
Steve Vai is another. Getting the notes to sing like him is my challenge.
Stevie Ray Vaughn....no need to explain.
The hardest song though for me was Jimi Hendrix's live version of "Machine Gun". I still have trouble and rightfully so.....this was a gift from a guitar god that I have the privilege to play (not as well as him I might add
OrangeChannel
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Those, and Tumeni Notes.
Tumeni Notes is a kick in the pants. It shows you the importance of learning alternate picking. If you don't do alternate picking this song will force you to. Like the other stuff Steve Morse writes, to play this song you have to use a little technique we call the right way. Once you do though Tumeni Notes is great fun to play.
I once did a transcription of "The Spider" from Kansas' Point of Know Return. It's tough but I learned it and forgot it.
The third section of Beethoven's Moonlight still eludes me. I have the music but it's just tough. Cool! I have renewed a goal!
I once did a transcription of "The Spider" from Kansas' Point of Know Return. It's tough but I learned it and forgot it.
The third section of Beethoven's Moonlight still eludes me. I have the music but it's just tough. Cool! I have renewed a goal!
GoKart Mozart
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"I'm the One" by Van Halen.
That song is like ZZ Top on crack.
That song is like ZZ Top on crack.
How do you get your picking down that well? I've been relearning how to pick, (so that i can play more technical pieces than what i have in the past -clapton, skynyrd, some G'nr, etc ) and I have alittle trouble changing strings smoothly at high speeds while alternate picking. Also, how do you keep the notes from ringing out and causing to much noise when playing tumeni notes? (like at the very beginning). When i play it with distortion, its just a mess of noise, but it sounds pretty good clean. What am i doing wrong? Also, do you anchor like Steve Morse does?
OrangeChannel
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Use a metronome. I'm also on the fence on the plectrum issue itself and am currently audition different types.
koogie2k
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You may already know this, but I tend to hold the pick with the tip barely sticking out between my thumb and index finger. My choice of pick is heavy. I have talked to many guitarists and read where people use heavy picks to...."make you pluck the string when your brain tells you." Thin picks tend to lag behind and get me out of time. I use the same picks as Kerry King of Slayer. They are made by D'addario (sp) and actually have three picking sides if you will. Not the tear drop shape. This made sense to me, so I employ this.
OC stated using a metronome. Best advice. I hate that clicking thing just as much as anyone, but, you will improve. I use it when playing classical.
Hope this helps.. Just my opinion and how I do things.
OC stated using a metronome. Best advice. I hate that clicking thing just as much as anyone, but, you will improve. I use it when playing classical.
Hope this helps.. Just my opinion and how I do things.
The section I think you are asking about is actually palm muted. I don't anchor or palm mute. Instead I do a muting technique with my fretting hand. I just fret very loosely. Kind of like a lazy fret hand. The metronone is your friend. Right and slow is more important than fast and wrong.
Koog you and I sir are of like mind.
Koog you and I sir are of like mind.
OrangeChannel
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I haave some Dunlops, Fenders and some PLanet Waves pics. I tend to gravitate to mediums. i'm thinking of going back to the Jazz pic style again. Maybe try some Jazz III's (i'm not a biter! Well maybe...) again. I like the Shell style and the gel style dunlops quite a bit. Picks CAN influence tone!
I use fender mediums. OrangeChannel, I too am trying different picking styles to see what works best. I used to hold the pick with three fingers, but slanted the wrong way, if you know what i mean, so ive had to rework that to build up my technique. What i do now is kinda like the way petrucci does it.
...and yes I have relied very very heavily on the good old metronome of late.
...and yes I have relied very very heavily on the good old metronome of late.
OrangeChannel
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Not actual picking style in my case, ust the picks themselves. I need to figure out which ones I'm comfy with again.
koogie2k
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I used to actually hold the pick with a fist if you will. Looked like I was punching the clown. Now, I hold the pick like I am giving the "ok" symbol with my three fingers in position to be used to finger pick as well. That is what classical guitar did to me. That way of holdiing the pick opened up a tremendous amount of doors and what I could do. Now, it is simply something I do without thought.
click, click, click, click, click, click, click....my metronome is still going. Helps me sleep too.
click, click, click, click, click, click, click....my metronome is still going. Helps me sleep too.
OrangeChannel
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Punching a clown! Violent koogie!
Goatblower
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Metronome with the bpm set as slow as you can bear and the amp as clean as a whistle (and no reverb).
Try "walking" up and down the neck across all strings (one fret per finger) as if it were a scale pattern. Once you get used to it mix the finger patterns up but keep that channel clean.
DON'T be tempted to speed up too quickly - it is actually harder to play slowly and precisely than quickly (with gain) and ragged. You'll be suprised how quickly the coordination comes together but don't over do it - if your hand get tired STOP!
Hard picks are best for this sort of thing as you have more control - legato is easy, picking hard - the harder the better!! Thing Angus and you can't go wrong.
GB
Metronome with the bpm set as slow as you can bear and the amp as clean as a whistle (and no reverb).
Try "walking" up and down the neck across all strings (one fret per finger) as if it were a scale pattern. Once you get used to it mix the finger patterns up but keep that channel clean.
DON'T be tempted to speed up too quickly - it is actually harder to play slowly and precisely than quickly (with gain) and ragged. You'll be suprised how quickly the coordination comes together but don't over do it - if your hand get tired STOP!
Hard picks are best for this sort of thing as you have more control - legato is easy, picking hard - the harder the better!! Thing Angus and you can't go wrong.
GB
