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gbarnwell

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Hi everyone,

This seems like it would pop up frequently and I hate to ask as I haven't seen anything specific to the 6 string Stingray, but...

While changing out my pickups for another set of hotter humbuckers, I am now stuck with standard 4 conductor wiring coming off of the new pickups (Black, white, green, red, ground) and the old originals only have 2, the white and a thick ground.

The replacements have a colour code, red is "north start" green is "north finish" white is "south finish" and black is "south start."

I get that this is explaining the windings, but... I am failing to grasp how this translates into what I need to do here. I was just expecting to solder in the new pickups just like the old humbuckers on the circuit board the volume and tone knobs are mounted on.

Any ideas? I wasn't planning on using my brain today LOL

Garrett
 

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What Pickup did you get as a replacement? Based on the Colorcode I'd guess Bare Knuckles?

Hello and welcome to the forum family!

Connect black and white. Use red as hot (old white) and green to ground.

Unofficial forum rule - your guitar does not exist without photos. :)

that would cause the Humbucker to run as a Singlecoil.

Red (North Start) -> Old White/Hot
Green (North Finish) and White (South Finish) twisted, soldered and insulated
Black (South Start) -> connected to Ground along with the grounding wire. Or where the previous Black Wire was connected to
 
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Forum Rule still applies though :D
Your guitar doesn't exist without photos. I wanna see that Stingray!
 

gbarnwell

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Right on! After I stopped flailing and thought through things I arrived at your conclusion. Yes they are Bare Knuckle Brute Force's! my RS originally came with white pickguard etc... and I picked up some blacks and thought it'd be a perfect time to trade out those stock alnico's with something hotter (and black:)

My logic was, they actually shipped with the white and green soldered and wrapped together. That told me that as humbuckers, this would be correct. That would leave red and black. I am no genius, but red is typically hot.

I think I got this LOL. The unsheathed grounds though, would I just twist and solder those onto the back of a pot, or probably where are the existing grounds are screwed into the guitar?

and since this convo doesn't exist without a pic, here you go:

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Thanks guys!
 

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That Guitar looks really nice!
I don't know if the Stingray has a PCB on the Toggleswitch like the JP Guitars.
On the JP all Pickup Wires go to that PCB, i would assume it's similar in your Guitar
 

gbarnwell

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The Stingray has this circuit board that both pickups go directly to, not to switch and pots like you'd expect.

and sorry to bug Dave, but the Bare Knuckle has the unshielded ground wire, to reiterate you can just wire that with the black? I know ground and negative are the same, just need positive reinforcement.

I was thinking about running the unshielded ground to the screw that connect to ground but that is a bit of a wiring stretch. maybe just wiring with black will be best?
 

gbarnwell

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Here is a pic of the circuit board I mentioned:

guts.jpg

So the B goes to Bridge (hot) and the N goes to Neck (hot). Geenyus, I tell you!

the G's are grounds I am betting. I just don't know what to do with the bare grounds. I think solder them with the black's to the G? There would be a bit of unshielded wiring exposed, not sure what I think about that.
 

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Generally you're ok wiring the shields to ground in a passive circuit. Any ground will be fine as they should all connect.
 
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