Help Majesty Noise G,B and E strings

[Tiago diniz]

Hi guys, i've 6 string majesty a little over a year and it makes this noise that's annoying me more and more and i wanted you're opinion/help before taking it to a new tech.

Here's a little video with the problem

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It has a ringing noise in the G string :/, i've tried to pull behind the nut (to see if it was the nut) and it still rings, tried to relief the neck a little more and it didn't really help.

Also it does this rattle noise when i pick the D in the 10 fret E string/15 F B string /19F G string which is weird.

I'll surely take it to a tech, and maybe contact customer service, but i wanted to know what you guys think about this before doing it .

 

[johnnyboogie]

String action and truss-rod adjustment needed most likely. A good tech should have it set-up for and ready for action in no more than an hour.

 

[bhull]

String action and truss-rod adjustment needed most likely.

Yep - most likely since you've had it for a year. I've found I need to tweak the truss rod about every 4 or so months. Never had to crank it more than about an 8th turn for it to get back to where it needs to be. Spring just came, so your Majesty is probably settling into the different weather.

The saddles have a tendency to get out of whack over time too.

 

[mikeller]

What happens if you pull the G string out of the nut slot and rest it on the nut? Sounds too me like the nut slots might be too low and string is vibrating on the first fret?

I think you are on the right track to call call customer service, and/or take it too a tech for evaluation

 

[Tiago diniz]

Hey guys thank you.

The guitar has always did this, and i ve even took it to the tech of the store where i bought it after 1 month which seemed to help a little but not completly.

Il post some pictures



A video :

Yesterday i tried to relief the necl more and it did't change the G ringing while worsening the rattle noise :s.

I 'll probably contact another tech today :/.

 

[Tiago diniz]

Hi again guys, since last time i was able to get rid of the buzz that i had by taking the guitar to the dealer shop, but one problem persists and some times it can be a little annoying. So i thought to ask again on the forum what do you guys think about this.

There's a lack of sustain on the 9th fret of the b string :S, and the guys at the shop they seemed to not know exactly the origin of this...

I could it be a fret problem, but if so wouldnt it be on all of the strings?
or could it be a the pull from the pickups, but then again, wouldnt this be on all the strings then?

I'll leave a video and the image with the string high in metric.

Thank you in advance

 

[jones4tone]

I have a similar issue with my Valentine, which a fret rocker indicates is due to a high fret, that only affects one string, number 3 in my case. So in my experience, a high fret will not necessarily cause all of the strings to lose sustain.

I would check the frets with a rocker if I were you. If you eliminate that as the issue, then you could look at other potential causes, but I bet it's fret-related.

Good luck!

 

[tbonesullivan]

What do you keep your action set up at?

As said before, if you have one dead sounding fret, that can mean it's got a high spot or a low spot on a fret.

 

[Tiago diniz]

I have a similar issue with my Valentine, which a fret rocker indicates is due to a high fret, that only affects one string, number 3 in my case. So in my experience, a high fret will not necessarily cause all of the strings to lose sustain.

I would check the frets with a rocker if I were you. If you eliminate that as the issue, then you could look at other potential causes, but I bet it's fret-related.

Good luck!

Hi , thanks for the tip, i tried to see if it was it, with a card and didn't look like it was.
The neck has even a little bow, what do you think?

 

[Tiago diniz]

What do you keep your action set up at?

As said before, if you have one dead sounding fret, that can mean it's got a high spot or a low spot on a fret.

hi , i think it is 2 mm from the neck and 1 from the fret. It was the dealer luthier that did this setup.

But i found myself lifting the B string action to try to compensate for this.


Tomorow i'll try to change the stings to see if it helps.

By the way im using 10s to 46s.

 

[tbonesullivan]

Ah, ok. For a minute it looked like you had some crazy low action going on. I know some people that like it down around 1mm, and it causes all kinds of issues with many guitars.

 

[DrKev]

I know some people that like it down around 1mm, and it causes all kinds of issues with many guitars.

Absolutely!!

hi , i think it is 2 mm from the neck and 1 from the fret. It was the dealer luthier that did this setup.

But i found myself lifting the B string action to try to compensate for this.
Tomorow i'll try to change the stings to see if it helps.

By the way im using 10s to 46s.

1) String height is measured by placing the end of ruler on the top of the fret and measuring to the bottom of the string. We don't care about at all the distance from the string to the neck.

2) All of your photos tell me nothing. Sorry Taigo. If it makes you feel better, most photos of posted for similar problems are also useless.

3) Yes, I would raise the action a little. Measure each string in turn and make sure the B string is not significantly lower than the high E or G strings. Also and make sure the pickups are not too high either (no closer than 1.5mm - hold the high E string down at the last fret and measure form the bottom of the string to the pickup pole pieces). If the sustain issue is ONLY at the 9th fret, there is no need to change all the strings, although if you have a spare B-string lying around it would not hurt to change that string just to be sure.

4) If that does not help, ask the dealer luthier to have a look at this. If it's a fret issue, it should be easy for a good luthier to diagnose and solve.

What country are you in? if you are in Europe you are still under warranty (which is a minimum of two years) a fret issue will be free of charge to you as a warranty repair.

 

[Tiago diniz]

Absolutely!!



1) String height is measured by placing the end of ruler on the top of the fret and measuring to the bottom of the string. We don't care about at all the distance from the string to the neck.

2) All of your photos tell me nothing. Sorry Taigo. If it makes you feel better, most photos of posted for similar problems are also useless.

3) Yes, I would raise the action a little. Measure each string in turn and make sure the B string is not significantly lower than the high E or G strings. Also and make sure the pickups are not too high either (no closer than 1.5mm - hold the high E string down at the last fret and measure form the bottom of the string to the pickup pole pieces). If the sustain issue is ONLY at the 9th fret, there is no need to change all the strings, although if you have a spare B-string lying around it would not hurt to change that string just to be sure.

4) If that does not help, ask the dealer luthier to have a look at this. If it's a fret issue, it should be easy for a good luthier to diagnose and solve.

What country are you in? if you are in Europe you are still under warranty (which is a minimum of two years) a fret issue will be free of charge to you as a warranty repair.

HI sorry about the photos .

well i've just measured at the 12 fret for the string height and it was G - 1,7 mm, B 1,7 mm, E 1,5 mm i think.
for the neck pickup i did like you said and its at 1,8/2 mm.

Its the 9 fret b string , which has less sustain (and a annoying overtone/harmonic, which its actually what annoys me the most), and the 13 fret of the g string which has only the less sustain. both G# :S.

On a sidenote the other G# on the 16 and 4 fret didnt seem to have it :S,

I live in france, yes 2 years, so i have to hurry up cause its due to the 17/11/17.
Maybe i'll go to the luthier tomorrow, but what do you think guys? could it possibly be the the action to low?

 

[Tiago diniz]

Hi guys, so i went to the dealer shop and i left the guitar there.

But while being there, the luthier looked at it a bit and found the low sustain weird but not as much the muffled/harmonic sound at the 9th fret, saying that its usual in floating tremolos, and showing me one other guitar (fender) that had the "same" problem , even if not as much has mine.
But i had a fender strat with floating trmolo that i never heard do this :S.

So i wanted to ask you guys if any of you have a majesty, or any other guitar with floating tremolo that has this harmonic on the 9th as has mine?

 

[spacebard]

I 'll never leave my guitars to a dealer shop for a set-up. They are ''guitar tech'' and many of them(not all) do a sh*tty job. I leave my guitar to a real luthier that I know (who builts guitar and really knows what he's doing) and when I get my guitars, they are a properly and amazingly set and I never encounter problems like buzzing/ low sustain like you have with your Majesty.