how to block trem on a jp6

[billy carr]

Anyone have an easy way to block the trem on a jp6? I wonder if it will get more sustain, or any other change in tone or feel? Who's done it and what methods did u use?

 

[Stringtwang]

I used a Craftsman deep socket on my MIM Stratocaster. Fit right in the gap. It was exactly the right length and width.

 

[Tollywood]

I would cut a piece of 1/4" plywood and use one tiny dot of wood glue to hold it in place inside the tremolo cavity. It will be easy to pop off some day when you reverse the mod.

 

[beej]

^ Yep. I used to use whatever was handy (plastic with tape, wood, etc.), but the best results were always a wood block cut to the right size. Easy and cheap.

 

[Kenji20022]

I use a wood block on the back end of the trem, and in the front of the trem block I use a piece of wood shaped like a wedge. The wedge gives it more force so the back block won't just fall off, I do that so I don't have to glue anything. More easily reversible.

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

STOP! PLEASE DO NOT USE ANYTHING BUT THE FOLLOWING:

The Last Word in Tremolo Stabilization

Or, snoop around that site, the Ibanez Backstop and ESP Arm Adjuster are just as good, but they allow some use
if you want dead block: TREMEL-NO or RP Guitars Products. Tremolo stabilizers, Floyd Rose tremolo stoppers, Les Paul tailpiece locking studs and more.

Anyway, PM me if you wanna know more, I searched for hours and that site I linked you to first has all the reviews so the question becomes do you want to still have the option to use it or never use at all

 

[matty76]

I have tremol-no's on 3 JP6's dating back nearly 6 years now, works like a charm!

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

I have tremol-no's on 3 JP6's dating back nearly 6 years now, works like a charm!

exactly

Now on the other hand, if you change your mind, and you want to use it, make sure the lock isn't a total block, like tremel-no

that's why I said, the others might be something to consider, the B(L)ACK BOX IS THE BEST, so much so that I put it into my custom (hand built by local luther)

 

[billy carr]

Thanks fellas.

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

bill, PM

 

[billy carr]

Thanks for all the input. I will let u know when its done. Good stuff.

 

[Morbid]

EBMMjpXI7: Forgive my direct-ness, but the Tremol-no is not a total block unless you want it to be. The Tremol-No has 3 options.
1. Full utility of the tremolo
2. Dive only
3. Total lock

That having been said, in my opinion, I'd go with the Tremol-No. It gives you all of the options you could want out of having a tremolo without having to truly modify anything. No screws, no new holes. In fact, I'm picking one up tomorrow for one of my Ibanez guitars.

Either way Billy, good luck with the endeavor, and be sure to keep us up to date!

 

[Rich5150]

I use these on all my trem guitars for my setups, and if I want dive only works just as good. I don't need a full block on my trems

Tremolo Stopper [TRS001] - $19.95 : FU-TONE.COM, OFFICIAL BIG BLOCK PERFORMANCE UPGRADES FOR YOUR GUITAR!

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

EBMMjpXI7: Forgive my direct-ness, !

Morbid, no problem, thank you for clarifying for the OP, and I also should clarify/have clarified: the tremol-no is not a stabilizer like the others I mentioned - it is an [on/off] lock. It is only useful for tuning stability in locked mode, but not in the other 2 when the trem is useable. It's a releaseable tremolo lock/block. Tremolo locks lock the tremolo in place so that you can't dive or raise the pitch. A block is a device that keeps you from raising the pitch... effectively turning the tremolo into a dive-only unit. Blocks are popular because you can install the block and then tighten the springs and, provided that you don't mind not being able to raise the pitch of your strings, your floating trem problems are over. Things to consider as well is you have to leave the cover off of the tremolo cavity on the back so that you can adjust it when you need to. This also means that you can't use any kind of cover for your guitar (like an AxSak, say).

I asked the questions earlier to ascertain and I hope I didn't misunderstand, but it seemed The OP wanted something more akin to the tremsetter stabilizer format rather than the full block of the tremol-no, which when engaged and locked keeps the bridge totally locked better than any other product out there, but it provides no further benefit towards the other two options provided because it isn't a stabilizer (meaning, when not engaged/locked, the tremel-no doesn't address the OP's stability goal).

That's why I aksed the OP if he wanted a full on dead lock, or something that will keep the intonation/tuning easy and stable with the added benefit of having an option to still use the trem when desired. Therefore, again, the best product for this is the Rockinger Black Box (goeldo back box).However, if the bridge is going to be locked for the most part with sparing use, then the tremol-no is perhaps more for you. However, if that's the case, Id still also recommend the ESP Arm Adjuster.

Either way, they are comparable in price, similar in purpose, but very different in function.

 

[Morbid]

That's why I aksed the OP if he wanted a full on dead lock, or something that will keep the intonation/tuning easy and stable with the added benefit of having an option to still use the trem when desired.

My apologies.
I went over the entire thread again and saw no mention from the OP about the desire for stabilization, or clarification from you, so I'm assuming this must have transpired in PM.
My only intention was to make sure that the OP knew the Tremol-no was only a full block if that was your desire (which from the first post, seemed to be), but that it wasn't permanent and required no real modification to change back to full or half use of the tremolo.

Regarding the back plate, I've seen some people cut litter squares out of their backplate for easy access. I'm too OCD for that myself, haha, but that's just me. I installed a Tremol-no on one of my Ibanez last night so I can do Drop tunings more easily and I'm elated with it. Well worth the price.

That having been said, the products you posted look great! Perhaps one day I'll be able to get over my OCD some and come to grips with the idea of putting some new holes in the back of one of my guitars haha

 

[ksandvik]

And there's an ongoing historical debate if fixed bridges get more sustain than floating ones. I've done an experiment on a non-MM guitar and frankly speaking didn't hear much differences. The block itself is more important. But if you are worried about tuning stability -- where the MusicMan vintage tremolos are maybe the best tremolos out there....

 

[EBMMjpXI7]

My apologies.
I went over the entire thread again and saw no mention from the OP about the desire for stabilization, or clarification from you, so I'm assuming this must have transpired in PM.
My only intention was to make sure that the OP knew the Tremol-no was only a full block if that was your desire (which from the first post, seemed to be), but that it wasn't permanent and required no real modification to change back to full or half use of the tremolo.

Regarding the back plate, I've seen some people cut litter squares out of their backplate for easy access. I'm too OCD for that myself, haha, but that's just me. I installed a Tremol-no on one of my Ibanez last night so I can do Drop tunings more easily and I'm elated with it. Well worth the price.

That having been said, the products you posted look great! Perhaps one day I'll be able to get over my OCD some and come to grips with the idea of putting some new holes in the back of one of my guitars haha

oh please! no apologies needed, none at all friend I just wanted to make sure my intentions were understood, and you are indeed correct, it was through PM, and if anything, sorry for omitting that small lil detail lol

thank you, I hope you can make use of it, I must say myself, I bought both, and I preferred the Back/black box over the other trem stabiliziers/tremsetters

morbid, if you want more info, please get in touch, through PM HAHA lol j/k id be more than happy to share any helpful info with you

 

[mnwst]

I use these on all my trem guitars for my setups, and if I want dive only works just as good. I don't need a full block on my trems

Tremolo Stopper [TRS001] - $19.95 : FU-TONE.COM, OFFICIAL BIG BLOCK PERFORMANCE UPGRADES FOR YOUR GUITAR!

I've been using this on my JP6 BFR for the last 2 plus years with excellent results for dive only. As far as sustain, etc, it does make a difference but nothing crazy dramatic. It's like playing unplugged and touching the headstock against the wall. It gets a little more resonant.

 

[River Street]

I would like to be able to change tuning (open G) for a couple songs on my JP6 with vintage trem. I like the trem but would rather have the ability to change tuning. What would be my best option? I got a good deal on this guitar or would have held out for a stoptail. I've discovered the open tuning with slide is great with piezo and mags on this guitar. Thanks.

 

[Rachmaninoff]

I would cut a piece of 1/4" plywood and use one tiny dot of wood glue to hold it in place inside the tremolo cavity.

Yes.