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bassJonas

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Hello all,

First:
Perhaps the Earnie ball staff will get mad when I tell them I did this, but I hope it is OK. The bass will never be sold to any one, and if it inspected using a magnifier it will be revealed it was not delivered as a Stingray from the factory.

Background:
I tryied out all Stingrays and SUB basses in my local store down town Stockholm a few years ago and came to a conclusion. The Stingrays and SUBs play exaclty the same. The differences are rather related to individual differences and tuning of the basses, fret board material etc, but not related to wheter it is a stingray or a sub. Also, after reading alot about this many others came to the same conclusion. Perhaps the best peaces of wood are not selected for the SUB because of their solid painting. So, I got my self a SUB. The most fantastic base I ever have played. However, I never liked the finish. Solid white body and black neck and head. Did not feal right for me. So I took sand paper and started working on the bass.

Total time and money spent:
10 days, 8 hours effective work.
Perhaps $100. If you buy the right thing the first time $50 will do the job.

What I did:
Disassembled everything, sanded the bass to remove all paint on body and neck. going from paper 80 up to 1200. Oiled the body. The body was done! Assembled it again and test played. Well, it looked better, but no other differences as expected :)

After this I created a Sting ray logotype. Got a photo of a sting ray head from google, extracted the logotype in photoshop and printed it on a "rice paper" (called Japan paper in Sweden) using a B/W laser printer. When this paper gets in clear paint, it turns transperant, but the laser print remains...

Spent about a week putting on huge amount of clear paint and sanded to get all un-even stuff away about this rice paper to get it look like an original logo. I only put the clear paint on the front of the head knowing that I could never get a factory result on such a large area as the entire neck. Also, I like the oiled-natural feeling on the neck.

Oiled the rest of the neck.

Done.

So I now have a "stingray" that playes like a stingray and looks like a natural oiled stingray. And if it looks like a dog and barks like a dog.. Well...

Will throw in some pictures of the result.

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Holdsg

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A slab-bodied natural oiled stingray. About the only thing I would say is: well done.
Excellent work. And thanks for detailing it out for us in your story.
 

syciprider

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You did a good job. You are free to do whatever you wish on a bass you own but I am not sure about the repro logo although you are not in the US.
 

RaginRog

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It looks good...congrats. I probably would have painted it a glossy Black though, as the slab of wood isn't the most attractive piece of wood. But very good nontheless.
 

J Romano

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May not be the best piece of wood, but the grain shows character. I kind of like the "two tone" effect of the wood. Nice job by the way on the finish.
 

MattOfSweden

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Hello Jonas, nice to see you on here!
Very nice work, really like the character of the wood! :)
 

bassJonas

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Another pic of the back

Thanks for your comments!

Well, yeah. The White finish looked good also. But I like the natural better :)

Throwing two more pics.
 

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bassmonkeee

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May not be the best piece of wood, but the grain shows character. I kind of like the "two tone" effect of the wood. Nice job by the way on the finish.

It's certainly unique and not wholly unattractive, but you can certainly tell why it was given an opaque finish.

Nice job on the refin, though. Refins are fun--check my signature. :D
 

TheBassGuy

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BassJonas, very nice result. But next time, first swap the white body for my SUB's black one, before you refinish it... White SUB are rare! :eek:
 

wal4string

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I am thinking of doing the exact same thing to my Black finish Stingray. Only difference would be no need to touch the neck or head so no Logo problem. Ernie has told me my bass is made of Ash. One other thing I would do though as I am not a pickguard fan (I rarely use a pick). Do away with the pickguard which means filling in the screw holes. Have worked as a carpenter and it's simply a case of mixing the sawdust from the bass with a small amount of wood glue. Perfect match and a very quick solution.
 

bassmonkeee

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I am thinking of doing the exact same thing to my Black finish Stingray. Only difference would be no need to touch the neck or head so no Logo problem. Ernie has told me my bass is made of Ash. One other thing I would do though as I am not a pickguard fan (I rarely use a pick). Do away with the pickguard which means filling in the screw holes. Have worked as a carpenter and it's simply a case of mixing the sawdust from the bass with a small amount of wood glue. Perfect match and a very quick solution.


Just be sure to keep in mind that they chose to cover that particular body in opaque paint for a reason. ;)

I'm all for refinishing a bass you love over selling it to buy a different one, though.
 

bassJonas

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I am thinking of doing the exact same thing to my Black finish Stingray. Only difference would be no need to touch the neck or head so no Logo problem. Ernie has told me my bass is made of Ash. One other thing I would do though as I am not a pickguard fan (I rarely use a pick). Do away with the pickguard which means filling in the screw holes. Have worked as a carpenter and it's simply a case of mixing the sawdust from the bass with a small amount of wood glue. Perfect match and a very quick solution.

The sawdust and wood glue thing will probably work just fine. And if you have carpenter exerience you probably will have a perfect result ;-) Without the logo issue it should be a fairly quick job.
 

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Great job, and I do like the look!

However, in order to avoid confusion, I just wouldn't have gone for an old style StingRay logo but either a SUB logo or something totally different (band logo, signature, whatever). Anyway, it's a cool and unique bass!
 

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You can tell when you see the finished result why EBMM used that particular piece of wood for a solid finish SUB series rather than a transparent finish like you have gone for. I will agree that I wouldn't personally have gone for an old style logo like you have, and gone for something more unique and to properly mark the bass out as something different - keeping the SUB logo or adding your own mark in the form of a wee image or signature for example. I guess that is the part of me that want to make sure nobody can mistake it for an old bass, but as the unique instrument it is.

At the same time though, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, and I will have to admit that I do rather like the look of it - a wee bit odd and certainly more unique than most basses you see.

At the same time, I think I will leave my SUB with the stock finish...
 
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sanderhermans

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Verry nice! Im in the same proces on my sub. Im still going back and forth abouth the body refinish.... i would go for a solid finish annyway. But cant decide on a colour. And also wondering if its possible to a refinish at home with some spray paint?
 
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