Im Sure this has been brought up before....

[Progdude]

But Im wondering why EBMM doesn't have an Acoustic line? They make these KILLER electrics & basses. I would LOVE to see what acoustic guitars they could come up with. Im sure they would be amazing.


Maybe we should start a petition for EBMM to start making Acoustics!!!

 

[walleye]

its one of those things where its hard to just summon credibility out of the air.

musicman could surely make an acoustic line and everyone on this forum would have faith in it, but the general guitar public wouldnt jump on board quickly enough

the guitar market is an extremely odd one as im slowly learning

 

[walleye]

but damn , now that you mention it, a hollow body electric by musicman would be really something

 

[banjoplayer]

oh, great idea. never heard this idea before here

 

[Big Poppa]

Because there are already people like Bill Collings that have it hnailed.

 

[andynpeters]

Us old people remember when they did.....the Earthwood line.
I think the replies here have covered it......after all how many of us bothered buying Martin electrics?

 

[browndog]

after all how many of us bothered buying Martin electrics?

Another nail on the head.

 

[gtrman66]

after all how many of us bothered buying Martin electrics?

The taylor electrics aren't flying off the hooks either.I work for a Taylor dealer on the east coast and I think we've sold one since they came out..and had to take a beating on it to get it out the door.

but damn , now that you mention it, a hollow body electric by musicman would be really something

They're sort of touching on this with the 25th and the reflex...not exactly but in the ballpark at least with both having a chambered body.A semi-hollow reflex-based model with a slightly thicker body and f holes instead of the chambers might be cool....sort of like the prs semi hollow models.It could be a way to get EBMM into the hands of more jazz and blues players.

 

[andynpeters]

The taylor electrics aren't flying off the hooks either.I work for a Taylor dealer on the east coast and I think we've sold one since they came out..and had to take a beating on it to get it out the door.

They're sort of touching on this with the 25th and the reflex...not exactly but in the ballpark at least with both having a chambered body.A semi-hollow reflex-based model with a slightly thicker body and f holes instead of the chambers might be cool....sort of like the prs semi hollow models.It could be a way to get EBMM into the hands of more jazz and blues players.

Well of course it's a nice thought that EBMM could corner the jazz & blues market......I'm no businessman, but I guess every time they launch a new model it has to pay for itself plus make a profit. The costs of introducing a new line, be it acoustic or semi-acoustic must be huge and the risks of failure equally huge.
EBMM have carved themselves some impressive niches and have a great reputation in certain areas of guitar manufacture......my guess is they won't be doing jazz boxes, acoustics or classicals in my lifetime

PS their guitars are currently in the hands of possibly the 2 most fashionable contemporary blues players.........I doubt if they could produce anything to make BB King jump ship

 

[gtrman66]

Because there are already people like Bill Collings that have it nailed.

As well as other companies like Taylor and Martin pretty much having the lion's share of the acoustic guitar market wrapped up.
PRS is trying to break into the acoustic guitar market with their acoustic line,but from what I've experienced,while they're excellent instruments,they're priced well out of reach of the average buyer's budget.It would cost EBMM a bundle just to do the R&D and tooling up for an acoustic guitar model,and would probably have to be priced in the boutique bracket just to be profitable.It could even trickle into their electric line causing a major price increase across the board just to help pay for it.Working in M.I. retail I've seen a sharp decline in high-end guitar sales over the past few years so IMHO it's probably not the best time to get crazy experimental or stray too far from what works.If it ain't broke don't fix it...just tweak it

 

[gtrman66]

well of course it's a nice thought that ebmm could corner the jazz & blues market......i'm no businessman, but i guess every time they launch a new model it has to pay for itself plus make a profit. The costs of introducing a new line, be it acoustic or semi-acoustic must be huge and the risks of failure equally huge.
Ebmm have carved themselves some impressive niches and have a great reputation in certain areas of guitar manufacture......my guess is they won't be doing jazz boxes, acoustics or classicals in my lifetime

ps their guitars are currently in the hands of possibly the 2 most fashionable contemporary blues players.........i doubt if they could produce anything to make bb king jump ship

+1

 

[jamminjim]

Wish a Collings was within my reach .....fantastic guitars.

 

[peterd79]

I think BP really hit the nail on the head here...

why take your focus off of something that you already do so incredibly well. EBMM make incredible electric guitars and basses so jumping into the Acoustic Market would be non-sense when you have someone like Bill Collings who does a knock out job in that venue.

 

[Progdude]

Because there are already people like Bill Collings that have it hnailed.

With all due respect, I don't think thats a good reason to exclude an entire type of guitar. And I don't see why just because Bill Collings makes great acoustic guitars that EBMM couldn't do even a small line of acoustics at least as good if not better than BCs. There are TONs of other manufactures out there that make great guitars and basses as well as strings/picks/straps/pedals/cables and other accessories. As we know, EBMM makes everything I mentioned above. Every product I have seen from EBMM is outstanding to say the least. I have complete faith that they could build acoustic guitars that would be absolutely superb.

Just like BP said in the GC sessions video your favorite thing about working with JP is that he is curious. And so are we!

 

[Big Poppa]

and with all due respect....

You have no idea other than keyboard curiosity why I just dont dive into acoustics...Start with a couple miliion reasons....

It isnt our strong suit or area of expertise..and we have our hands full And Bill collings has nailed it. Guess what? It would be nice if I could be allowed an opinion. With all due respect.

 

[Progdude]

I just asked a ligit question. Didnt mean to upset anyone.

 

[peterd79]

I just asked a ligit question. Didnt mean to upset anyone.

I think when Sterling Ball (Big Papa) gives a reason for why his company is or isn't going to do something such as building acoustic guitars we need to let it die- even as much as we'd think it'd be sweet to see one mocked up.
I think it's too often we forget that this really is a business with very tight profit margins and though it's not always about money- It would cost a fortune to take on such a task as to build an acoustic to the highest quality that ebmm's are known for. Sterling is an amazing guy and i think his solution was to support a great guy by purchasing a Collings guitar was spot on.

 

[Big Poppa]

Prog Just read your reply to me Im not upset..not at all but I sort of gave it back to you. The market is FLOODED with acoustics. I would be stark raving mad to attempt it just like some of the acoustic guys have learned thinkng..."I make cool acoustics...I will own the electric market.

Plus think through saying that there are many companies that sell what I sell and it didnt stop me....Strings...year started selling 1962.......nobody else was selling prepackaged sets with light strings and plain thirds.....picks 1964....nobody sold pics in any colors but Shell....my dad wanted a white one. The rest is history. T shirts 1971 nobody had them....website we were the first company in the music industry with a web site......guitars and basses 1984...after many ups and downs Music Man is now known as more than just a bass company.

I am motivated by opportunity that is product driven I am motivated for available hooks on the retailers walls. WE have to fight for our lives to get our electrics on the wall...how receptive would the retailers be to adding our acoustics when we cant get them to buy our electrics? Plus the MILLIONs of dollars of investment would be taking capital away from funding our initiatives and growth in electrics. We arent made of money.

I hope that answers your questions....

 

[Axistence]

Acoustic?
Muddy Waters invented electricity!!!

 

[spkirby]

Just order an EBMM with a piezo pickup and get a small acoustic amp or PA....amazing!

Oh and Bill Collings makes really nice electrics too, but at a price!