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SquidLizard

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adouglas asked if people would share their insurance knowledge and experience. Here's a "+1" to Ben's mention of Clarion. I have my gear insured with them. Here's why:

1) Premium is about 1% of insured value for my quantity of gear

2) They cover it everywhere I can think of: practice pad, gig, my friend's house if I loan it out, my car, etc.. They cover it for just about anything: theft, fire, loss, earthquake or flood. It is covered at replacement value.

3) The folks I spoke with there seemed friendly, knowledgeable and patient. They also followed-up carefully and made sure they had everything they needed from me.

4) As they will happily tell you, they insure ONLY instruments and music gear and have been doing it for years

5) You can add gear mid-policy very easily. Also, they make you send them a new list when you renew which I think is a great idea -- at least once a year you have to give them an update!

6) My homeowner's insurance covered my gear at a minimal extra cost but only if it was in my home at the time of the loss. It was subject to my $1,000 deductible. They insured it from a list I sent them as a special rider to my policy. It did not cover earthquake or flood loss, nor loss from anywhere except my house. It cost me about 1/4 of what I pay to Clarion but for me, the comprehensive coverage Clarion gives is worth the extra cost.

I'd recommend that you call your current agent and find out exactly what is covered now, what the deductible is, and how and where it's covered. Also under what circumstances they will and will not pay a claim. Does there have to be a police report, what if it just disappears from your house, or there's flood or fire damage? Find out the cost of adding a rider for your instruments. That will help you decide whether you need a specific instrument policy.

You should discuss definitions of terms with any insurance company you talk to -- for instance, how do they define "replacement value" and how does it work if you have a claim? Do NOT assume that you understand anything. If it sounds like "insurance speak" it probably is. Get a definition.

There are companies other than Clarion. I found one that was a little cheaper, and they seemed fine, but I was more impressed with Clarion because of their courtesy and their follow-up. I felt their positive attitude would help a lot of the worst happened. It didn't hurt that the man who helped me was a musician.

You should keep a list of all your gear, with detailed descriptions and serial numbers. Keep it updated and inform the insurance company when there are changes. I keep photos of my instruments on-line. If there's a fire the photos are still available for my claim.

You should DOUBLE-CHECK anything you hear (including from me) with the insurance company you're thinking of going with. For me, instrument insurance was the only way to go. Of course, as always, YMMV.
 

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Lisa...Great post..,COuld you give us any contact info you may have? (I cannot endorse this one way or other....you know the standard cover my ass stuff...Sont try this at home...professional stunt drivers...dont operate alchohol when taking heavy equiptment
don t sky dive pregnant......)

Maybe the cats and kittens here can support your agent?

Where the hell you been BTW?
 

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adouglas has the link for Clarion above. The nice fellow I spoke with there was Anthony Richards, his phone is 1-800-848-2534, extension 100. They are available between the hours of 9am and 6pm Eastern Time, Monday through Friday. arichards (@at@) clarionins (dotski) com

I have not had a claim with them. It gives me peace of mind to know that I have that insurance. I think because they specialize they have a reputation to uphold as far as paying on claims. I'll shoot Anthony an e-mail and let him know that some folks may be contacting him.

The other company is Heritage Insurance Services - Musical Instrument Insurance. The man I e-mailed with was Ellis Hershman, ellish(@at@) musicins (dit dot dit) com. At that time they did have a $250 deductible per loss if you insured small gear (pedals and such) and no deductible if you did not. Their price was a bit lower than Clarion's, with a minimum cost of $250. You can see what's covered on their site.

I found a couple of PDF files from Anthony of the coverage form and coverage highlights and there are also details on their web site. The policies also show the exclusions which you should review.

In looking things over it looks like I was wrong about replacement value at Clarion, they give you a better deal. Here's what their site says:
Valued at means that we agree to insure the instrument for the amount shown in the schedule of instruments to be insured. The amount that the instrument is insured for is the amount that you will collect in the event of a total loss. This is NOT REPLACEMENT COST. Replacement cost allows the insurance company to replace the instrument with like kind and quality even if that is substantially less than the insured amount. Because the basis for payment of a claim is valued at, we cover devaluation. We will pay the difference in value, if any, between the instruments insured value before the loss and the instruments market value after the loss.
I think Heritage works the same way but they are not as clear about it on their site. That's part of why I didn't go with them.

I liked how easy it was to understand Clarion's policy. There are some other good things in these policies like right of repurchase, business interruption, and newly acquired instrument coverage. Check it out. (It doesn't appear that Heritage covers business interruption.)

Sterling, I've been inundated since I got back from THE party. And what a blast it was! It was a GREAT time and I can't think of a single way it could have been better. I met many wonderful people. THANK YOU to you and everyone there -- so many good things. Seems like things piled up at home and work as though I'd been gone 10 times as long -- everything's fine, and I'm just getting things back under control. Well, as much as life is ever "under control." LOL.
 
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Oldtoe

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Lisa's Dargie Delight Sterling H/SC is covered while it's visiting Ben in Texas, btw.

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Awsome! Thanks for raising this issue Lisa.

Tooz Up have been looking into insurance recently. Any UK'ers have any experience with insurance for working musicians? We now carry 2 Luke's and 2 JP's with us and its really about time we got everything covered.
 

SquidLizard

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Just a bump. This came yesterday in response to my heads-up to Anthony at Clarion. It was nice to receive a prompt reply and just one more reminder for those of you who are thinking of it to make a couple of calls and decide whether to get yourself covered.

Hello Lisa.

It's nice to hear from you again. Thank you so much for your referrals. Most musicians seem to think that obtaining a policy to properly protect their instruments would be cost prohibitive, when in fact we offer a very cost effective policy that offers the best coverage in the industry...period! I thank you for your efforts in helping to spread this message to your fellow musician colleagues.

Feel free to contact me at any time if you have any additional questions. Thank you so much for your business and your support.

Sincerely,

Anthony L. Richards
Program Specialist Supervisor
Clarion Associates, Inc.
 
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