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Grand Wazoo

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I had to go to my head office to the centre of Town today for a board (read bored) meeting... but the good thing was that after the meeting I was able to take the rest of the day off and didn't need to go back to the port until tomorrow yay!!

What is a man to do in Central London but going for a bit of window shopping, so I headed for Tin Pan Alley (Denmark Street) to check out the music shops. And as I was looking through the glass of one shop I spotted a 1979 white / blonde Stingray with maple neck and decided to go in and ask if I could try it...

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Of course, said them man, "you really should check out this great bass, this is the real thing, y'know? they are very rare to come by...", and blah blah... he was dying to sell it to me. I explained to him that I am an EBMM afficionado so he didn't really need to give me the rap and I was only passing by and not on a shopping spree, "is it still ok for me to try it?" I asked.

Sure, he said so he showed me to a nice and quite basement room, plugged it in a marshall bass amp and left me in peace...

My my my, what a very nice bass, 30 years old and with only a few minor battlescars, which compared to koogie's Bongo is almost untouched, the bridge had lost all his string dampers and the saddles were in pretty good conditions, rust free, the neck was very comfortable to play, you can see in these pictures that there is some evident wear on the fingerboard but it definately adds to the mojo factor and doesn't remove anything from the playability and feel. I loved it.

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What surprised me the most about this bass was how powerful and punchy that one pickup sounded, remember this bass has only a 2 band eq, bass, treble and the volume pot, but you will be surprised at how responsive that preamp was. With all the settings in flat position, the bass had an incredible thundering midrange and the eq gave it a very wide spectrum range.

I asked how much he wanted for it, he said he was selling it on behalf of the owner and that the asking price was £1800 that including the original case, and that if I really really wanted to take it to day he could let it go for £1700 which is about $2763 or... €1986.

Now I am not interested in buying this as I am focused on getting the 25th Anniversary but do you all think it's worth all that cash? It did play very nice and only needed minor bridge & trussroad adjustment to remove a slight fret buzz on the higher frets, but otherwise it was a very wonderful and extremely playable instrument. A real piece of vintage art.

What a lovely experience that was
 

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Cool to see and all that, brother to Aussie marks fretless no less, but no I don't think it's worth the money.
Or, I would not pay that kind of money for it, is what I mean. I have a similar experience a couple years ago, finding a Sabre that was kick ass, but the price was the same ball park as this one so I declined.
Did you happen to get the serial?
 

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Did you happen to get the serial?

Well I looked at the serial but as you know the saddles screws run across the serial number so I couldn't get to see the whole number and even if I tried to take a pic of it, it wouldn't have shown very well, as I was using my phone camera.
 

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You mean to say you didn't dismantle the whole thing, removing strings and moving saddles?

Strummer, have you been overdosing on your pickled herrings again? :D

No, I flippin' well didn't take it apart! :) I looked a weirdo enough as it was, by taking pics of it when I was only supposed to "try it". Imagine the look on the shop owner face if he had found me with the strings, saddles and even the neck off to try and read the build date under the heel of the neck, HAHAHA.

But the thought did cross my mind, I admit.
 

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Old gal

I have a '77 with a nice amount of mojo, still has the mutes intact, sounds great. Plays nicely enough if not brilliantly, but nowhere near as slick as my EB Stingrays. I love it, but bottom line is out of all of my basses, the old gal spends a lot of time in her case.

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Only worth that much to the owner. Or the dealer. Dream on!
 

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I have the very same white (mellowed cream) StingRay, but from 1978.
Your description is spot on; very comfy neck, deep powerful low end.

As far as price? Depends on if your a fanatic about these old Rays or not. I regularly see the harder to find colors go for the mid 2k range, while the common natural and black ones hover the 2k level. A local vintage dealer here prices all his preEB Rays at 2500, and sell pretty instantly.


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It doesn't cost more than a new one, and if it is a great, no, phantastic instrument, why not?

But I wouldn't buy it at that price.
 

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i'm not big on the whole vintage market thing, if you see me on basschat, you'll probably know this. It's just an old bass, i'm sure i could find a new one just as good and with no nasty dings.
 

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i'm not big on the whole vintage market thing, if you see me on basschat, you'll probably know this. It's just an old bass, i'm sure i could find a new one just as good and with no nasty dings.

I actually thought about you today in that shop, believe it or not they had a blue Sub 4 strings active, very tatty and full of scratches, and the price tag was £850, which is about 150 quid more than they used to cost brand new a couple of years ago, I looked at it and thought.... bollox to that! :D
 

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I actually thought about you today in that shop, believe it or not they had a blue Sub 4 strings active, very tatty and full of scratches, and the price tag was £850, which is about 150 quid more than they used to cost brand new a couple of years ago, I looked at it and thought.... bollox to that! :D
wow! what shop were you in? can't have been the bass cellar because they had guitars, that was the only one i saw those in last time i was down that way last summer. It's a shame about denmark street... i'm guessing you were fairly smartly dressed? A lot of the shops there really look down their noses at people like me (scruffily dressed student/muso types). Particularly the bass cellar, which is a shame as they have some nice gear that i might otherwise have been tempted to buy.
 

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The Vintage Ray was in that shop called Macari's on Charing Cross Road see pic below,

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and the Sub was in that tiny shop right opposite the Bass Cellar.
 

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Soundwise most of these 70ies Basses really kick a**. And the slightly slimmer neck is also very comfy.

For me the slab Body is a bit of a showstopper.

I have a 83 with a slab body but prefer to play my SR5.
Even though it is a good deal heavier it has the shapings in the right places.

I'm actually thinking of getting rid of it and buy a HS Ray with all the sexy curves.

But it's not easy to part with any Stingray. It doesn't help that she's so pretty too...
 
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You mean to say you finished a meeting early, neglected going back to work and went to a music store???

You, Grand Wazoo, are a man after my own heart.

I'm going to curse you when you get that 25th Anniversary bass ;)
 

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That's a nice looking bass. From the state of the front corner of the pickguard and the minor chunks out of the finish around the neck pocket, it looks like someone may have had the neck off and had some trouble dislodging it, or putting it back.

As everyone has said, these basses seem to fetch this sort of price even if quite badly beaten up - I'm amazed the NOS 1978 which recently finished on Ebay was only a little more at around £2050 last time I looked - and it looked totally mint including case.

There are some people and dealers around it seems with some strange ideas on pricing at the moment - the Bass Gallery in London currently have an early 90s Blueburst 'Ray for £1200 (that's $1940 or so) - once again selling for a customer but not willing to reduce............AND I got outbid on a lovely 1987 trans red 'Ray on Ebay last week in the last minute or so - it went for £1220.........allegedly!!

As someone else has said on here, the current EB Stingray is just as good and probably has more tonal variety available than an old one anyway, so I guess spending two or three times the money on a vintage one depends on how you view these things.

As with everything vintage (also Fender basses), it's possible to spend a lot of money and get a mediocre and sometimes absolutely hopeless item for your money. Like Wazoo, I spent some time in Denmark Street looking round a year or so back and happened across a 76 sunburst Ray in the little shop opposite the Bass Cellar - the one that sells vintage and rare stuff - however this bass was unplayable above the 15th fret - not that I ever play up there much. I only found out when I attempted to play the unison riff from Stevie's Sir Duke - I knew learning that would come in handy one day :D

It was quite interesting pointing this out to the salesman who said they would fix the fretboard lift over the neck pocket before I buy it if I still wanted it!! No price reduction though :( I went and looked at the new EBMMs in the Bass Cellar instead!
 

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i paid 2400 for mine.. i enjoy my new basses more

1. they are tight
2. the electronics are not fragile yet
3. who can resist the hh models? :D

MrM
 
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