Jp6 by Sterling. Locking tremolo, no locking nut

[einarc]

Hi,

I just wanted to propose an idea here, I don't know how viable it'll be since I'm don't know the details of the licensing contracts, etc but I much like to see an Sterling in the spirit of the Jp60/JP100d with a NON microtuner OFR type tremolo and locking tuners(just like they have now):

Non-Fine Tuner Tremolo System | Floyd Rose Non-Fine Tuner Tremolo System

I gave up my two Sterlings because they just wouldn't stay in tune properly because of string slippage. You need to lock BOTH ends of the string if you want to really use the tremolo in "extreme" ways. The JP60 being a "metal" guitar not doing that doesn't make sense to me. All that is really needed is changing the saddle configuration.

Charvel already does it with the Guthrie Govan model, which is probably why this will never happen with a Sterling since they're both owned by CBS/Fender now.

Throughts?

 

[DrKev]

My thought is that it'll never happen. The EBMM signature guitars are whatever the signature artist him/herself wants to use and those are the guitars that go into regular production for everyone else. The Sterling range try to stay as true to that as possible within the constraints of a lower price bracket. The only way a locking bridge would go on the Sterling guitars is if a locking bridge went on the EBMM JPs. So yes, nice idea, but it's JP you'd have to convince first.

 

[MajtasticVoyage]

Sorry, I have NO idea what you're proposing, other than a non-EBMM/SBMM bridge...

Interesting, though - I had no idea FR made a non microtuner bridge!

I don't think they'd even THINK about a non in-house bridge unless they felt there was an issue with their own. I wouldn't mind seeing a full-on EBMM locking nut to go along with the JP bridge, which I feel is the BEST floating trem in the industry. Wouldn't mind seeing a JP bridge with fine- tuners, either!

 

[Guitarshreda]

I'm a self-diagnosed whammy abuser. I gigged extensively last year on my SBMM JP50, the only mod I had done was replacing the saddles with Graphtech saddles due to excessive string breakage. (When you have 2 gigs on back-to-back days, and break a total of 5 strings -- two of them the same from each gig, it's time to find a solution).

Anyway, I abuse my whammy like there's no tomorrow and aside from needing to do a bit of tuning throughout the night (maybe one adjustment per set -- 3 sets a night), I've never had an issue. Usually I'm checking just to make sure I'm in tune, not that I hear I need to adjust the tuning. To me its more of an issue of having the tremolo set up perfectly at zero, and maintaining the instrument.

 

[dhalif]

I love my jp tremolo! :d

 

[SBMM]

If John Petrucci decides to have a future model with such a tremolo, it could be within the realm of possibility if he and EBMM make such a model available to us. Other than that, an Artist Signature Collection model must remain true to said Artists specs.

 

[einarc]

That is exactly what I'm trying to get rid of in the design.

Here's why:
1.-Locking nut gets in the way of the first fret.
2.-Microtuners get in the way of your picking, specially when seating.
3.-A non locking tremolo will never ever stay in tune as well as a locking one. Specially without rolling saddles. I tried and experimented with this with enough guitars to be able to tell.

 

[einarc]

If John Petrucci decides to have a future model with such a tremolo, it could be within the realm of possibility if he and EBMM make such a model available to us. Other than that, an Artist Signature Collection model must remain true to said Artists specs.

Then I'll keep shopping. Thank You very much.

 

[scooby61]

The jp 16 had a double locking trem. Possibly sterling will follow suit.

 

[einarc]

Btw, you wrote to me when I sent an email to customer support offering to inspect my JP60. I remember that. That was my first floating bridge guitar. I still think of that one.

 

[einarc]

Hey,

That's exactly what I'm trying to get rid of, the microtuners in the "standard" floyd rose design and the locking nut.

JP 16 | Guitars | Ernie Ball Music Man
vs

Non-Fine Tuner Tremolo System | Floyd Rose Non-Fine Tuner Tremolo System

Which in combination with either a rolling nut or a teflon/anti skit nut would work great. Like in this one:

Is just almost impossible to get your hands on that model just to try its stability to begin with, whether you consider its price or you don't and honestly there are things I love about John Petrucci/MM design of the guitar that I haven't seen anywhere else. Including the right harm slant and the headstock, not to mention the neck.

 

[einarc]

My thought is that it'll never happen. The EBMM signature guitars are whatever the signature artist him/herself wants to use and those are the guitars that go into regular production for everyone else. The Sterling range try to stay as true to that as possible within the constraints of a lower price bracket. The only way a locking bridge would go on the Sterling guitars is if a locking bridge went on the EBMM JPs. So yes, nice idea, but it's JP you'd have to convince first.

If John Petrucci decides to have a future model with such a tremolo, it could be within the realm of possibility if he and EBMM make such a model available to us. Other than that, an Artist Signature Collection model must remain true to said Artists specs.

It looks like that's the way it works. I think I'll try DT forums to see if I can reach John. Of course, then there's the challenge of the piezo.

 

[einarc]

Original Floyd.

Well look what I found in the meantime, it actually found me:



It was attached to a 1984/85 Korean Kramer that I found at an old record store in SF. Made in Germany, original Floyd. Yes, the body is Plywood and the headstock is the famous banana. One volume control and that was it.

Can somebody tell me the post distance of the Sterling JP 6 string, iI'd like to compare and I don't remember. Thanks!

 

[einarc]

Well look what I found in the meantime, it actually found me:

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It was attached to a 1984/85 Korean Kramer that I found at an old record store in SF. Made in Germany, original Floyd. Yes, the body is Plywood and the headstock is the famous banana. One volume control and that was it.

Can somebody tell me the post distance of the Sterling JP 6 string, iI'd like to compare and I don't remember. Thanks!

Edit, NM, given what I saw in a picture the saddle layout is completely different, it'll throw the intonation completely off or I would have to push the saddles so back the tremolo wouldn't fit, not to mention the post spacing is clearly narrower.