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nervous

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Been a while since I've been back but I thought it'd be fun to share my latest (second) Axis Sport rescue.


Came to me as a bit beat up and grubby 1999 model, all original that I bought with the intention of restoring and refinishing. I had great success with my 1997 model so I was pretty confident I could create something respectable. Really, this is intended to be the as close as possible playing and sounding back to my '97 which is my #1.

This is what it looked like on arrival:
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After checking with a variety of painters in the US they were all very busy and all around 6 month lead time to complete. I was feeling a bit impatient with a lot of summer work booked so I wanted to get this one into service ASAP. I put the feelers out for a local source and found one that was highly recommended so we had the conversation. I quickly learned that he didn't work in automotive type finishes and preferred lacquer so that immediately changed course for the color choices I was originally wanting, preferably a Firemist Copper Metallic. Further along in our discussions about options it became more apparent that anything short of a solid vintage color was going to be a challenge. I then said can we just do a simple, orangy/red clear over the ash, similar to the original look.

I had already stripped the original finish and this is what I supplied:
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A few small areas of the sealer and filler were sanded back but I assumes that a competent refinisher would immediately recognize that, apply the necessary bits of fill and seal to those areas and move on. Simple basic prep. I assumed wrong...

Five weeks later, after regular checking in and many perfect low humidity spray days lost I got a message that my body was ready. Excited and happy to get it back I headed out to retrieve it. First impression in his dark house was not good. It wasn't the transparent color I had provided pics of, and was now some odd mashup of transparent/metallic/burst. Pieces of everything that we discussed rolled into one, except the burst, that was a surprise. And it was not the glass smooth finish I had expected. But I immediately thought that if this was work he was proud to present to me and didn't recognize the issues that my amateur eyes could see then there was little point in have an argument at that point. I'd take it home and give it a proper evaluation in better light.

That was even worse. Significant orange peel front and rear. Cloudiness in the finish, probably from spraying in too humid conditions, round seemingly un-sanded sides and several areas on the side of unfilled grain. Real amateur stuff. In hindsight I could have done better with a $100.00 of automotive spray cans and clear coats in my garage.
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I was beginning to move from disappointed to angry. So, I stewed on things for a couple days and weighed all my options. I sent a couple messages of complaint that went unresponded and decided I had nothing to lose by trying to repair things myself. I didn't want to, nor should I have to but worst case I either add more lacquer myself, respray with cans, or send off to the pros as originally planned and chalk it up to another life experience. I had never done a full scale wet sand and polish but watch several videos on this so I felt semi-comfortable digging in and already had the equipment and materials on hand. Not knowing how much clear coat build I had to work with I assumed very little and I started very safely at 2000 grit wet sanding to see what that actually did. When that went pretty well I moved on to 2500 grit then to Griots Complete Compound and finished with Griots Complete Polish. In the end, while not as perfect as I would have liked I think I ended up with a fairly respectable result.
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I would be LIVID if anybody presented that to me as finished work. What a shame. But you did a fabulous job making it look good! Well done!
Thank you. We had a lengthy exchange about everything in which the best I could hope for was a price reduction for my additional time and effort but he was having none of that, took no responsibility for the obvious, and ultimately blamed me for misrepresenting 'the prep work I had done before getting the body in his hands which 'took more time to complete'. While insufficiently prepping anyway and I guess I was on the clock and it ran out before any final sanding and polishing could be done. Oh well, I guess we just wait for the opportunity to share the experience with the next local that asks.
 

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1- both of those look great!
2- poor work / customer service like that results in many honest bad reviews online from me... quite often that's more effective than a price reduction these days...
 

nervous

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1- both of those look great!
2- poor work / customer service like that results in many honest bad reviews online from me... quite often that's more effective than a price reduction these days...
Thank you. The green one (my Dargie 1 homage) was done by Guitar Paint Guys who do really nice work. Just so busy that turnaround is so long.
 

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I think there are products to remove moisture blushing, and if it's nitro lacquer, that means you can do things like a flash coat and / or overcoat to fix it.

But damn, whoever did that finish should not be advertising anywhere that they do guitar finishing.
 

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Nervous, they looks great, what are the saddles on the Dargie'ish one?

Glenn |B)
 

loocnmad

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Sorry you had to deal with that but the end result looks great! I'm strangely drawn to that 97, though. Care to share, here or in a PM, where you had it done? I've wanted a Silo like that for years.
 

nervous

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Nervous, they looks great, what are the saddles on the Dargie'ish one?

Glenn |B)
Those are Hipshot Modern Stainless saddles, the long version:


And they work beautifully. I used those simply because I had them left over from another project. When I got the '97 it looked like this, done up in Telel style, and the bridge had Graphtec saddles:

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At the time I had planned on turning this into a "Red Special" of sorts, had the pickguard made and all then had the Dargie inspiration.

Interestingly, I bought another set, the standard/med length and for some reason they did not work well on the '99. Perhaps they were too short but had to be raised too high to be practical. So I cleaned and reinstalled the OEM bent steel saddles which are just fine.
 

nervous

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Sorry you had to deal with that but the end result looks great! I'm strangely drawn to that 97, though. Care to share, here or in a PM, where you had it done? I've wanted a Silo like that for years.
"Strangely" is an interesting reaction. That was painted in Candy Lime by the fine folks at Guitar Paint Guys:

This guitar is actually on page 4 of their gallery:
Gallery4 - GuitarPaintGuys - Check out some of our work!

They do really nice work.

This was the progress thread from that time:
 
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