Help! Majesty possible truss rod issues

[rmac306]

Hello.
I have a Majesty 6 strings, bought it around 1 year ago from GC.
The guitar has been wonderful so far, and as soon as I got it, I sent to be professionally set up, and I also asked to change the strings to 09s which I prefer.
Anyway, I played with it for a while and as you know, life happens, and I had other things that were more important, and the guitar sat a little bit for some time.
I do have a metal rack, so it's not like the guitar sat in a corner on a wall or something.
Anyway, a week or so ago, I picked the guitar up again, and started to play.
Initially, I noticed the bridge was tilting back a little bit, which was not something I noticed when I bought or after the setup as I normally pay attention to all details.
I loosened the springs on the back, retuned, until everything was ok and the bridge was flat.
I also noticed the action was extremely low.
Now, I usually set the action pretty low myself, and don't mind some buzzing.
So i checked the neck relief by fretting the first and last frets and tapping the 12th. There was absolutely no movement.
I proceed to loose the truss rod (looking at the guitar from the front, neck up, the movement was from right to left), and I was able to get some relief and the neck was pretty flat at that point.
The problem here, is that I wanted just a little bit more loose and the truss rod at that point started to basically spin loosely, to the point I could move it with my fingers.
So I'm at this point now where the guitar is "okish", and I know I could raise the bridge/saddles to increase the action if I want, but I just wanted to make sure if this situation is ok, where I have barely no wiggle room of relief anymore.
I took the guitar to a Luthier, and he said that, when the truss rod is virtually lose, I have a "very minimal" up bow, but he would like to see more, since having nothing left might be bad for winters and such.
To be fair, I had this guitar with me, since before the last winter, and I had no issues, but now that it's warming up is when I'm seeing that.
Anyway, according to the Luthier, I should contact customer support, but before I wanted to see if that's normal, or if there is really something wrong.
This is the video of me checking the relief:

Is the neck good or do I have a problem?
Any feedback is appreciated!
Thanks

 

[Norrin Radd]

Call customer support. Its free.

 

[rmac306]

Call customer support. Its free.

Thanks for the reply.
I was going to call them today, but it was too late by the time I was back from the Luthier.
Just thought about creating the thread to check if somebody had any insight.

 

[DrKev]

Looking at your video that seems like more than enough relief to me so I'm not ready to say you have a problem just yet. My Silhouette Special is usually close to, or occasionally at, no tension on the truss rod but if we can achieve the neck we need it's not a problem. good news is that it very likely will not get worse over time, so if it's been good up to know, it'll stay that way.

If you have a short (6") engineers rule, and some feeler gauges and a capo, you can accurately measure the string height and the neck relief and that really helps to take away the guessing and fear-of-the-unknown.

 

[beej]

I've had a guitar or two like that as well. Never really been an issue. But again, to be sure, call or email customer service and let them help you out.

 

[nervous]

That has been a pretty consistent issue for me as well. I guess I am always surprised how many guitars and basses i have owned that will set up to my liking but right on the edge of adjustability, and I am talking about relief, saddle heights and intonation. Both of my older Axis Sport(s) are like this with a hybrid 2241 string set. I think my L3 was similar. The truss rod is just into tension. I am thankful I can get them but any less string tension and that wouldn't happen. A two way truss rod can solve this but we don't have that option. I have a Modulus bass that really needed that and was glad to have it. All my Lakland basses are like that, including B string saddle heights which I always fight with. So it's not uncommon for me across many quality brands, just always a tad frustrating that things can't be built with the design allowing more room for 'error' if you will. 9's are not an unusual ask.

 

[rmac306]

That has been a pretty consistent issue for me as well. I guess I am always surprised how many guitars and basses i have owned that will set up to my liking but right on the edge of adjustability, and I am talking about relief, saddle heights and intonation. Both of my older Axis Sport(s) are like this with a hybrid 2241 string set. I think my L3 was similar. The truss rod is just into tension. I am thankful I can get them but any less string tension and that wouldn't happen. A two way truss rod can solve this but we don't have that option. I have a Modulus bass that really needed that and was glad to have it. All my Lakland basses are like that, including B string saddle heights which I always fight with. So it's not uncommon for me across many quality brands, just always a tad frustrating that things can't be built with the design allowing more room for 'error' if you will. 9's are not an unusual ask.

Thank you.
Based on your signature, you have that Axis (or had) for a a long time and I imagine that was never an issue, despite being at the very edge of the blade, right?
I also had an older JP6 (2002ish) that bought used, and it had the same issue. The guitar was incredibly well setup, and played wonderfully, but the truss rod was 1 bee's wiener away from being loose.
The thing is that I have attributed that to the fact it was an older and more beat up guitar, not that it was a real spec.

I'll see what the support says about that, but as long as it works and never gives any issue, I'm good.

 

[nervous]

Thank you.
Based on your signature, you have that Axis (or had) for a a long time and I imagine that was never an issue, despite being at the very edge of the blade, right?
I also had an older JP6 (2002ish) that bought used, and it had the same issue. The guitar was incredibly well setup, and played wonderfully, but the truss rod was 1 bee's wiener away from being loose.
The thing is that I have attributed that to the fact it was an older and more beat up guitar, not that it was a real spec.

I'll see what the support says about that, but as long as it works and never gives any issue, I'm good.

Correct, not an issue. And that is with a couple seasonal tweaks a year. MInd you I have not had either axis from new but certainly enough years that I am aware of how they will act. As I mentioned I use a hybrid #2241, 9-46 string set and that is just enough pull to keep a bit of tension on the truss rod wheel. When I am that close I will start full off/no tension, see what does for a relief baseline, then just dial enough into tension so the wheel will not move or loosen on its own. If I was ever forced into no or not enough tension I might be tempted to add the smallest drop of blue thread locker to the threads just to eliminate any rattling or further loosening of the wheel. But to date I have not had to do that.

And a bee's weiner is better than no weiner I always say...

If you have the string gauge and setup you like, as long as the adjusting wheel does not move you're good to go.