Music Man Steve Morse BFR Pickups / Darklord Pickups

[ENGL]

Hi folks,
I'm currently building a custom guitar and I would love to install a Set of Music Man Steve Morse BFR Pickups / Darklord Pickups. But you can't order them in DiMarzio or Music Man. I'm pretty familiar with the Steve Morse Pickups and especially for this custom build, the ones with chrome cover would just match perfect instead of the standard black ones.
Would somebody sell me his Music Man Steve Morse Custom Pickups (found on the newer caramel burst / blue burst Steve Morse BFR models) or his DiMarzio Steve Morse Pickups with Chrome Cover?
thank you already for your answers and best regards,
Michael

 

[d_neufeld5150]

What kind of price do you have in mind?

 

[ENGL]

hi,

thank you for your fast answer. Well I actually don't know how much worth they are because they're normally not for sale. What do you think is a fair price? By the way, do you have the Darklord Pickups or the ones in the BFR model? because I heard / read the ones in the BFR ar not Steve Morse Pickups but DiMarzio Titans.

 

[fbecir]

Hello

On the DiMarzio site, you can buy Steve Morse pickups with a metal cover or a chrome top and you can choose the pole piece color :

Steve Morse Model™ Bridge | DiMarzio

Steve Morse has a unique approach to playing guitar, and we designed his pickups to match his technique. Steve commonly switches between pickups mid-solo — playing the neck pickup on the high notes and the bridge pickup on the lows — so both pickups must be evenly-balanced over the entire...

www.dimarzio.com

 

[ENGL]

hi there,

yes that's correct, but you can't order them with only a single screw row like the ones on the darklord version. that's the reason I'm looking for some from a Music Man Darklord guitar.

Thank you anyways

 

[tbonesullivan]

Are the pickups in the "Dark Lord" series guitars different from the standard Y2D? I thought they were just the usual morse pickups with different covers, and are not the same pickups used on the two pickup Morse guitars.

 

[d_neufeld5150]

hi,

thank you for your fast answer. Well I actually don't know how much worth they are because they're normally not for sale. What do you think is a fair price? By the way, do you have the Darklord Pickups or the ones in the BFR model? because I heard / read the ones in the BFR ar not Steve Morse Pickups but DiMarzio Titans.

I have both actually but im very attached to the D/L. I can confirm the pups in the blue bfr i have are the same as the darklord. Pricewise i have no idea as im loosing the value of my guitsr and if i go through with it . If we did a deal id say a set of pearly gates solderless and 250$ sound fair?

 

[ENGL]

I have both actually but im very attached to the D/L. I can confirm the pups in the blue bfr i have are the same as the darklord. Pricewise i have no idea as im loosing the value of my guitsr and if i go through with it . If we did a deal id say a set of pearly gates solderless and 250$ sound fair?

ok, thank you for the confirmation about the pickups. there was someone else on the forum who said on the back of his Y2D BFR Model Pickups, there was a different pickup number and after contacting DiMarzio they told him that these were OEM Titan pickups. so cool to know that on ohter guitars there are the same pickups in it.
a set of pearly gates + 250 + shipping + import fees would be around 700-800 dollars. that's sadly way too much for me. thank you anyways. my price range would be the 250 + shipping only, otherwise I will go for the version I can order online from DiMarzio with the double row screws.

 

[fbecir]

@ENGL, you can also buy cheap covers (Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0C Chrome) and solder them to "classic" Morse pickups.

 

[ENGL]

@ENGL, you can also buy cheap covers (Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0C Chrome) and solder them to "classic" Morse pickups.

DiMarzio even sells chrome nickel covers. The "problem" is, that the Steve Morse Pickups come with a double row of pole pieces and only with hex screws. So they are not ment to use it with covers. But on the darklord they changed the screws and added the covers. That's the reason why I ask specificly about those pickups. but thanks for the hint.

 

[DrKev]

@ENGL, you can also buy cheap covers (Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0C Chrome) and solder them to "classic" Morse pickups.

Also, watch out when buying humbucker covers. There is no one-size-fits-all and no industry standard spacing for pole pieces. Dimarzio spacing for bridge pickups (F-spaced) is 51.05 mm E to E. Music Man in-house bridge humbuckers, and Lollar F-spaced humbuckers are 53 mm, Duncan F-spacing (trembucker) is 52.6 mm. A cover with the wrong hole spacing might now allow you to adjust the polepieces. Similarly, neck pickup spacing, usually known a Gibson or Standard spacing, varies from 48 mm to almost 50 mm. Check what you need before you buy a cover.

 

[ENGL]

Also, watch out when buying humbucker covers. There is no one-size-fits-all and no industry standard spacing for pole pieces. Dimarzio spacing for bridge pickups (F-spaced) is 51.05 mm E to E. Music Man in-house bridge humbuckers, and Lollar F-spaced humbuckers are 53 mm, Duncan F-spacing (trembucker) is 52.6 mm. A cover with the wrong hole spacing won't allow you to get the polepieces through their holes. Similarly, neck pickup spacing, usually known a Gibson or Standard spacing, varies from 48 mm to almost 50 mm. Check what you need before you buy a cover

Thank you for the hint, I will keep that in mind. I just contacted DiMarzio if they could custom made me a "Darklord Humbucker-Set", so I would not have to worry about the covers at all. Fingers crossed.

 

[beej]

Interesting about the Titan pickups. Don't they also have hex poles though?

 

[ENGL]

Interesting about the Titan pickups. Don't they also have hex poles though?

I will try find the original post here on the EB Forum where a member wrote that he took out the pickups on his Steve Morse BFR and their were labeled weird and while talking back to DiMarzio they told him; those are DiMarzio OEM Titan Pickups.

 

[fbecir]

Also, watch out when buying humbucker covers. There is no one-size-fits-all and no industry standard spacing for pole pieces.

Kevin, the link I gave is for a cover without any hole.
There are several material :

Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0C Chrome

Capot de micro double bobinage Dimensions: 69 x 39 x 15 mm, Design fermé, En maillechort, Finition: Chromé

www.thomann.de

Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0A Antique

Capot de micro double bobinage Dimensions: 69 x 39 x 15 mm, Design fermé, En maillechort, Finition: Antique

www.thomann.de

Göldo Humbucker Cover PNS0N Nickel

Capot de micro double bobinage Dimensions: 69 x 39 x 15 mm, Fermé, En maillechort, Finition: Nickelé

www.thomann.de

 

[beej]

I will try find the original post here on the EB Forum where a member wrote that he took out the pickups on his Steve Morse BFR and their were labeled weird and while talking back to DiMarzio they told him; those are DiMarzio OEM Titan Pickups.

Yeah- here it is:

NGD - Morse BFR Tahitian Blue & Questions

I just bought #63/69, brand new. I guess it's been hanging on the wall for five years. The neck is fantastic, and it sounds lovely...and I haven't even put on new strings yet. Does anyone know what pickups these are? Also, what strings did the factory put on this -- 9s? 10s? Hybrid?

forums.ernieball.com

Still though, those are different than the stock Titan pickups. Good question to ask Dimarzio.

 

[ENGL]

Yeah- here it is:

NGD - Morse BFR Tahitian Blue & Questions

I just bought #63/69, brand new. I guess it's been hanging on the wall for five years. The neck is fantastic, and it sounds lovely...and I haven't even put on new strings yet. Does anyone know what pickups these are? Also, what strings did the factory put on this -- 9s? 10s? Hybrid?

forums.ernieball.com

Still though, those are different than the stock Titan pickups. Good question to ask Dimarzio.

but kinda weird right? I mean, when you buy a Steve Morse guitar you expect Steve Morse Pickups in it, except it is clarified that there are others in it.

 

[beej]

Well, sort of ... so many of the sig guitars have different versions, especially when they do special runs. And the Darklord has a completely different neck profile, too. So it's kind of a different thing.

I've never played one (or the 2-pickup versions) so can't really comment on the pickups.

 

[ENGL]

Well, sort of ... so many of the sig guitars have different versions, especially when they do special runs. And the Darklord has a completely different neck profile, too. So it's kind of a different thing.

I've never played one (or the 2-pickup versions) so can't really comment on the pickups.

ok. yes the thing about the thicker neck has something to do with JB I read.

Thank you anyways for taking time for me, that's too kind.