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Petrucci

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Hello:

I'm looking for a good book or video that will help me with developing arpeggios, sweep picking, leggato, picking tecnique...etc.

Can anyone tell me a good book or video about that?

Thanks
 

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Have you had a look at some of the older Frank Gambale videos? I actually won an autographed one from him at a clinic once for knowing the capital of Australia (Canberra, BTW). Scary stuff!

Not sure if it'd be considered antiquated by the younger folks at this point - they were done back in the late 80s/early 90s - but I believe his technique (an ergonomically economical thing where hitting three note triplets per string before moving onto the next one) was the basis of what Paul Gilbert and other shredmeisters based their own techniques off of back in the day. Speaking of which, some of Paul's videos were pretty terrifying too...he may have even named one of them "Terrifying Guitar" or something goofy like that.

Look also for any of Greg Howe's stuff as well. Saw him at a clinic around the same time as I saw Frank, and his ideas were also pretty cool - more of a basis in conventional pentatonic-based rock than classical or jazz fusionoid, as I remember it. He also had a pretty good way of making the more difficult concepts easier to understand, as I remember at the time...thanks to having a screaming case of ADD all my life, I have the attention span of a gnat, and anyone who has the patience to slow things down and explain in rudimentary terms gets my vote! :eek:

Lastly, Eric Johnson's first video was pretty amazing - I think it was called Total Electric Guitar. He came out with two others later that I've not seen, but that one made a huge impact on me. Not only did he go over arpeggios, but a bunch of other important stuff too, important melodic based things that break stuff up so you don't sound like you're wheedling the same technique out all the time. Not exactly what you're looking for, I know, but definitely still worth seeking out if you want to be a more well-rounded and stylistically diverse player.
 

Petrucci

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PurpleSport said:
Have you had a look at some of the older Frank Gambale videos? I actually won an autographed one from him at a clinic once for knowing the capital of Australia (Canberra, BTW). Scary stuff!

Not sure if it'd be considered antiquated by the younger folks at this point - they were done back in the late 80s/early 90s - but I believe his technique (an ergonomically economical thing where hitting three note triplets per string before moving onto the next one) was the basis of what Paul Gilbert and other shredmeisters based their own techniques off of back in the day. Speaking of which, some of Paul's videos were pretty terrifying too...he may have even named one of them "Terrifying Guitar" or something goofy like that.

Look also for any of Greg Howe's stuff as well. Saw him at a clinic around the same time as I saw Frank, and his ideas were also pretty cool - more of a basis in conventional pentatonic-based rock than classical or jazz fusionoid, as I remember it. He also had a pretty good way of making the more difficult concepts easier to understand, as I remember at the time...thanks to having a screaming case of ADD all my life, I have the attention span of a gnat, and anyone who has the patience to slow things down and explain in rudimentary terms gets my vote! :eek:

Lastly, Eric Johnson's first video was pretty amazing - I think it was called Total Electric Guitar. He came out with two others later that I've not seen, but that one made a huge impact on me. Not only did he go over arpeggios, but a bunch of other important stuff too, important melodic based things that break stuff up so you don't sound like you're wheedling the same technique out all the time. Not exactly what you're looking for, I know, but definitely still worth seeking out if you want to be a more well-rounded and stylistically diverse player.

Well, I just went to Musicians Friends and bought the book of John Petrucci (Rock Discipline)... I'm going to give it a try... Have you heard about this one?

Thanks
 

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I have the JP Rock Discipline DVD and Gambale's Monster Lick DVD.

I love the JP Disc. Excellent throughout although I'd have liked a little more sweeping. There is only one excercise and it's not musically useful. The Gambale disc is all economy picking and requires that you re-think and re-build your picking technique. It's a totally different approach where all riffs require 3 notes per string except the string on which you change direction across the neck. There, you'd have two. Sounds wierd but you'll see what I mean if you get the DVD.

Dave
 

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Petrucci said:
Well, I just went to Musicians Friends and bought the book of John Petrucci (Rock Discipline)... I'm going to give it a try... Have you heard about this one?

Thanks

I was going to recommend that one myself. It's a little light on the sweeping but it's really helpful throughout. I haven't seen any of the videos by Malmsteen but I'd imagine if they aren't merely showcase videos that guy should have some expertise in sweeping.

If you're open to books and cd roms I'd check out www.chopsfromhell.com , they have a great deal of info on a lot of things. I've never ordered from them but I've always found things I was curious about.

For picking technique, I'll second the Gilbert or Gambale stuff. I haven't seen it yet but for legato stuff George Lynch had a video that at least would have been interesting.

Good luck on your knowledge quest. :)
 

Petrucci

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deadringer said:
I was going to recommend that one myself. It's a little light on the sweeping but it's really helpful throughout. I haven't seen any of the videos by Malmsteen but I'd imagine if they aren't merely showcase videos that guy should have some expertise in sweeping.

If you're open to books and cd roms I'd check out www.chopsfromhell.com , they have a great deal of info on a lot of things. I've never ordered from them but I've always found things I was curious about.

For picking technique, I'll second the Gilbert or Gambale stuff. I haven't seen it yet but for legato stuff George Lynch had a video that at least would have been interesting.

Good luck on your knowledge quest. :)

Hey, thanks a lot...
;)
 

PurpleSport

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Petrucci said:
Well, I just went to Musicians Friends and bought the book of John Petrucci (Rock Discipline)... I'm going to give it a try... Have you heard about this one?

Thanks

I've not personally checked the JP vid out, but like Cud says above, I've seen a lot of very good reviews for it, so many that I'm considering have a look myself (that is, if I can ever find the time)! All in all, I'm really not into that fast picking stuff much anymore though - the aforementioned ADD makes it tough to focus on making that sort of thing sink in, so I've capitalized on some other aspects of my playing (and life) that are compatible with how my brain chemistry works and am much happier. I can certainly understand why folks wanna learn the fast stuff, tho...it's pretty fun to rip stuff out like that. :cool:

Cud's right about the Gambale style...it requires a rethinking of what you do to accomodate the technique. It's a lot more linear vs. boxed scale shapes, but even though I don't try to do the ultrafast licks anymore, it did make a big impact on me in the long run - I still use a fair bit of it today when I want to play faster. It's actually a pretty sensible way of playing if you're willing to try something different, and it's not that hard. I hear he's got a "patented" guitar tuning coming out that supposed to be a bit more musically sensible as well.
 
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