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Ray89it

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Hi all. I own a jp50 (that I did not buy because i'm jp fan, but because I liked the feel), that I modded heavily (cts pots, quality 022 condenser, 4pdt switch)

Now, for the pickups, here's my problem:
I used to own several epiphone les paul with duncan 59+jb combo. It sounded amazing, liquid solos on neck and screaming leads/bends on bridge.
For the bridge, I need something tight and articulate, I do all my rhytms on the bridge PU, and even some lead/bends , with some wah, for screaming type of tone.
For the neck I need a very mellow BUT clear pickup to make fast runs/solos, phrases and of course cleans.
I'm planning to keep the center split position so the PU's need to 'complement' eachother well for that purpose.

I tried the crunchlab+liquifire on a les paul and I loved the tone, but it sounded too 'petrucci' even if I was playing random riffs.
I tried 59+jb on a S guitar, so, still mahogany but thin body, maple bolted neck, and I loved it

I read everywhere that jb won't work in basswood body.. so that's my main complain that keeps me away from buying it another one immediately.

The choices I draw out atm, including my main doubts about every single one are:

NECK
Dimarzio Bluesbucker: not sure about the extremely vintage output when soloing with lots of gain
Dimarzio Breed: not sure about that kind of 'extra dark' tone: people complain their axe sounds too much like a les paul with these.
Dimarzio Paf Pro - seems a good choice but what about the clarity with gain?
Dimarzio Liquifire - as mentioned above, very nice PU but kinda 'petrucci-limited-sound'
Seymour Duncan 59 - as I already used that for several time, seems the perfect match, but what about duncan on basswood? seems a 'no-no' for everyone


BRIDGE
Dimarzio Crunchlab - as mentioned above, very nice PU but kinda 'petrucci-limited-sound'
Dimarzio Evolution - I found out some jem's demo and i really like the tone quality, but sometimes feels a bit 'thin'. seems also something that shares several things with the jb tonal qualities
Dimarzio Breed - never heard anything but like the neck version, seems a bit dark
Seymour Duncan JB - as I already used that for several time, seems the perfect match, but what about duncan on basswood? seems a 'no-no' for everyone.
Seymour Duncan Full Shred - kinda scares me that 'extremely reactive to dynamics and errors'.

The jb was a beast, that's what I liked about that
The 59 was very glassy and 'modulable', (ie: using acoustic simulation with nice results)

Is there any problem if I will choose, say, liquifire for neck and duncan jb for bridge in terms of 'compatibility' between dimarzio and duncan?

Oh and I DON'T like tone zone, paf pro, air norton, air zone, steve special, the whole 'jp old school tone' thing

So... that's it!
Any help?
 

patpark

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no issues at all combining a dimarzio with a duncan. just check the middle position that its not out of phase when you use both pickups at the same time.

The 59 is a great pickup. More vintage sounding but great for cleans and pushed solo tones.

The Crunch Lab and Liqui Fire although they are John Petrucci signature pickups, I do not feel that they are limited at all and thru the right amp/effects set up can get that DT tone, but can do so much more too.

Nothing beats installing the pickups in and just playing them. Only way to see if they work for your ears and fingers.
 

LawDaddy

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For the neck, the Dimarzio 36th Anniversary is my current favorite. It has the attributes you are looking for. It's got a real nice clarity to it. I prefer it over the Duncan '59, which I find to be a little too scooped for my tastes.
 

RocketRalf

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+1 you need some kind of PAF for the neck. The virtual PAF in my Silo is the most versatile pickup I've ever heard, with little changes in the rest of the chain it will sound like anything I want... except an Air Norton=Petrucci tone :p . It can be really creamy but more of a vintage creamy. The bridge could be almost anything with what you are asking for, just go for what tone you like. Have you considered a Norton (not AIR Norton, just Norton). They say it's similar to the JB.
 

TNT

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Hey Rocket hit it!!

The "Norton" (not air). My favorite bridge pickup!!

I play Journey, Van Halen, Boston, etc. . . . it's powerful, clear, warm and colorful.
 
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