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gelvo

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Can someone explain what the deal is with the Piezo bridge, I have also noticed that guitars with this also have an extra nob and switch, what do these do, and is having Piezo bridge worth it?
 

whitestrat

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YES YES YES!!!!

I like the idea of having a piezo, so at least you can still get a relatively decent acoustic sound. Think of it as an electric and acoustic guitar combined...
 

unclerico

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I will just say welcome to the forums. :)

As for the piezo, it has the acoustic sound, on an electric. The knob adjusts the piezo.
 

wagnerite

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in my opinion its not worth it. (in not trolling, nor am i trying to start a flame war, honest)

piezo will give you what sounds (to me) like acoustic guitar with electronic pick up. I think pickups in acoustic guitars are also piezo pickups (at least some of them are). On EBMM guitars with piezo installed, you can blend piezo with magnetic pickups and get different sounds, but to me, thats just too much work and money to spend, just so i dont have to bring an acoustic guitar that i already have.

unless piezo sound from EBMM guitars is what you are after, then its not worth it.

FOR ME... (key word here being "me")... when I'm playing electric guitar, its 99% distorted anyway, so i won't be using the piezo. the 1% of the time i need a clean sound, I'm certain the JP6/BFR will be able to provide a great clean sound. Sure, piezo's clean sound is much much much closer to the sound of an acoustic guitar (then the magnet pups), but its not like you are unable to get a good clean sound from the magnetic pickups.

if im playing a song that calls for an acoustic guitar for strumming, i'll just use an acoustic guitar. I think i can switch from electric to acoustic (on stand) as quick as someone with a piezo option fiddling with knobs and pedal board.

here's the definition of "me" in case anyone still think i'm trying to start a flame war. I dont make money playing guitar. My largest audience is double digit... low double digit at that. I play electric guitar for fun, and its fun when its distorted. Before the piezo was available for electric guitars, everyone seems to be fine with its "clean" sound. I still prefer it. Even if the piezo is a $50 option, which its not, its still not worth it for me. I'd rather play an acoustic thats mounted on a stand.

if you like the sound of piezo, get it. if you need the versatility of piezo, get it. For what I do, I don't need it. Plenty of people don't need it, thats why EBMM give you the option.
 
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robelinda2

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the piezo is worth it for sure. do it!

funny thing- whenever i see a strat these days i think to myself "wow 3 knobs, thats a strat with piezo!". i'm so used to 2 knobs on my AL's and Super Sports that seeing 3 knobs just means piezo no matter what guitar it is!!!!!
 

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using both is very expressive and articulate. especially when using hi-gain with it.

I found it irreplaceable and cannot live without it.
 

Spudmurphy

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Wagnerite has made good points on his part.

My opinion is the exact opposite - the piezo is fantastic. I've said it before and I'll say it again - when I first heard it, the sensation was like being punched in the stomach!!
It was being demonstrated through an AER acoustic amp which made it sound soooo good. I also tried it through an 18 watts 1960's amp and I sounded like Billy Gibbons ha!

I would definitely get the Piezo and it is my one regret that my 2006 Limited Edition Albert Lee doesn't have one - it was not an option at the time.

and finally, yes, the third knob on my Albert lee is the volume for the Piezo.

GET THE PIEZO !!!!
 

Lou

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The piezo is an invaluable tool for the gigging guitar player. It is indispensible when you need to layer an acoustic in a song, or need to switch sounds within the same song. If you are a lone guitar player (like me) it goes a long way. Even more so if you are not an acoustic purist.
 

mesadualrec

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Hey I agree that these are very useful little crystals


but not for me :)



I have a Mystic Dream JP and had enough cash to get it loaded.....but I aint JP so why would I want his Shield :confused: the sig on the head is as far as it goes for me :)
I feel this way because the band I has in were playing reasonably large shows(the least being nearer the top half of the double digit mark)and I really didnt want to promote other bands/artists while my band was performing,if you are or have been in a gigging/touring band you know where Im coming from


but as for of the piezo's ,when touring/gigging it was a struggle to get everything in(my gear taking up most of the room:) so having to bring another amp was not gonna work,this said I prefer the sound of them through the PA anyways but this meant that I would have to get a Full PA spec before arrival to see what songs we could play etc. so on the whole I didnt need them.

In my new band I can foresee the need for them and most of us can drive so the gear room issue wont exist,

Its all down to what YOU need,as I say I could have if I wanted but at the time it was more hassle than it was worth

This is just my view/opinion on the matter and as mentioned I may get a new guitar with Piezo's :)
 

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3) If while using the mono output, it didn't require the battery to be in there to use the magnetic pickups. (I just don't understand that at all)
It's difficult to mix passive (magnetic) and active (piezos + preamp) signals as they have different impedances (resistances, basically).

So what's generally done is to put both sets of pickups through a preamp to make them the same impedance. The preamp doesn't add any volume (called "unity gain"), it just allows both signals to be mixed together so you can use them on a mono output.

And all of that requires a battery to power the preamp.

If you use only the magnetic output then you bypass the preamp and don't need the battery. Hope that helps.
 

matty

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Hi - I don't post here much but this I can comment on.....

I find the piezo on my Silhouette to be invaluable. It really shines in live settings and allows for seamless transitions. Part of my job requires me to play the guitar and sing ans gone are the days of switching between electric and acoustic guitars. Feedback issues are nil. Run it as loud as you want in the monitors. I use it every time I play live and get many compliments on how it sits in the mix.

For me it has been a great return on investment. I say go for it.

Matt
 
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