Has anyo0ne noticed that recently( the past few years that Stingray 5 bass .. the G string rolls off the edge of the neck. it is only me? I was wondering if EB designers are aware of that ? great basses . I love them but it is so irritating to play a 5 stingray and have the G string roll off from under your finger and slide off the edge of the neck.
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MingusBASS
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I've never had this issue. Every time it's brought up, it's typically diagnosed as a technique issue or user error.
bizmarckie
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No problems here... I used to a few years back, but it was a technique problem at the time.
weird.. I know that im not the only one that has had this happen .. I have met a few folks in my travels that say the same.. and i love the way these basses sound and looking to getting one today...
i just spoke with my good friend and he had the same thing happen.. so i inspected the SR5 im looking at now.. and the G string is right on the edge of where the fret crowning rolls off to the edge of the fingerboard... No wonder... my nyc sadowsky and alleva copplos have perhaps .080 of an inch between the edge of the fret at fingerboards edge to the string where this SR5 is right on the fret.. this is all at about the 12th fret on up.. lower register is no problem..
as far as technique goes.. well perhaps it is me.. but i have been a session guy in NYC for 30 years.. and have run the gamut.. and i never found this issue with any other bass.. unless i have had poor technique for all thes years.. but without string wiggling, just by fretting the note anywhere above the 12th fret on the G string it slides right off the edge of the fret crowning..
Thank you.. mmm .. i may not get this bass..... still looking
i just spoke with my good friend and he had the same thing happen.. so i inspected the SR5 im looking at now.. and the G string is right on the edge of where the fret crowning rolls off to the edge of the fingerboard... No wonder... my nyc sadowsky and alleva copplos have perhaps .080 of an inch between the edge of the fret at fingerboards edge to the string where this SR5 is right on the fret.. this is all at about the 12th fret on up.. lower register is no problem..
as far as technique goes.. well perhaps it is me.. but i have been a session guy in NYC for 30 years.. and have run the gamut.. and i never found this issue with any other bass.. unless i have had poor technique for all thes years.. but without string wiggling, just by fretting the note anywhere above the 12th fret on the G string it slides right off the edge of the fret crowning..
Thank you.. mmm .. i may not get this bass..... still looking
Thornton Davis
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I have experienced this minor issue before on my SR5's. There's a simple fix for it (other than changing your playing technique) that works for me everytime.
Each string saddle has two small allen screws in it to allow for string height adjustment up or down. If you increase the outside screw and lower the inside allen screw, that will lock the string in place. Just be sure to check that the G string height is consistent with the other strings.
Does your SR5 have a compensated or a standard nut?
TD
Each string saddle has two small allen screws in it to allow for string height adjustment up or down. If you increase the outside screw and lower the inside allen screw, that will lock the string in place. Just be sure to check that the G string height is consistent with the other strings.
Does your SR5 have a compensated or a standard nut?
TD
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yourwhathurts69
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hey, svt
i had a thread like this before that was administratively closed. everyone always says it's a technique issue, but like you, i've never had this problem on any other bass, and i've played many. this problem is the one thing i absolutely hate about sr5 basses. there's hardly any space between where the string touches and where the edge of the fret starts to fall. an extra millimeter would make a huge difference.
i've found a few ways to work with this problem
1) use heavier gauge strings
2) use lots of caution when playing on the g string
3) change the nut
4) just deal with it
all the technique guys are going to say i'm wrong, but i think this is more of a fret issue than a technique issue.
so why do i still play a musicman 5 stringer?....because everything else about the bass makes up for the g string problem.
i had a thread like this before that was administratively closed. everyone always says it's a technique issue, but like you, i've never had this problem on any other bass, and i've played many. this problem is the one thing i absolutely hate about sr5 basses. there's hardly any space between where the string touches and where the edge of the fret starts to fall. an extra millimeter would make a huge difference.
i've found a few ways to work with this problem
1) use heavier gauge strings
2) use lots of caution when playing on the g string
3) change the nut
4) just deal with it
all the technique guys are going to say i'm wrong, but i think this is more of a fret issue than a technique issue.
so why do i still play a musicman 5 stringer?....because everything else about the bass makes up for the g string problem.
bovinehost
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When I got my first Stingray 5, back when we still had tails and no one cared about Alaskan governors, I noticed that I could very easily pull the G string off the fretboard. I'd be playing along and - bonk! Off it would go.
After a couple of weeks, it stopped happening.
So either the bass miraculously "fixed" itself or I fixed my technique, inasmuch as yanking down on the G string, anyway. The rest of my technique is still in the dark ages, just to be clear.
Yes, the G string IS close to the edge. Yes, it IS a function of the the combination of rather narrow string spacing plus a fretboard that isn't like an aircraft carrier. No, its not a design flaw or an inherent problem. Yes, it can be overcome with repetition and a bit of thought.
Or maybe the bass fixed itself? If someone can explain how this might happen, I might buy it.
Otherwise, it's really just a question of becoming accustomed to the instrument.
The string does NOT roll off the edge. The string is PULLED off the edge. Is this right or wrong?
Jack
After a couple of weeks, it stopped happening.
So either the bass miraculously "fixed" itself or I fixed my technique, inasmuch as yanking down on the G string, anyway. The rest of my technique is still in the dark ages, just to be clear.
Yes, the G string IS close to the edge. Yes, it IS a function of the the combination of rather narrow string spacing plus a fretboard that isn't like an aircraft carrier. No, its not a design flaw or an inherent problem. Yes, it can be overcome with repetition and a bit of thought.
Or maybe the bass fixed itself? If someone can explain how this might happen, I might buy it.
Otherwise, it's really just a question of becoming accustomed to the instrument.
The string does NOT roll off the edge. The string is PULLED off the edge. Is this right or wrong?
Jack
bovinehost
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Dang, these really are amazing basses.
DaddyFlip
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I agree with this 100%. I'm a beginner and this was a problem for me at first. I thought it was exclusive to EBMM, and it might be; but it was because I was pulling on the strings. I could even push the low B off the neck as well. Apply good technique of pressing straight down on the strings and this problem will fix itself. The bass won't fix itself; it is an inanimate object. Only the strings and the player move.
DaddyFlip
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I'm picturing a previously bright red, smoking, '58 Plymouth Fury, rolling itself into a garage for a makeover...
Grand Wazoo
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Was it the bass that fixed itself or was it that our human brain, being such a wonderful machine, allowed you to adapting (learning constantly) and self correct to the new technique?
Bloodfist
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The magnets in the Pickups are secretly wired to increase their magnetic pull on the string. They are triggered by microscopic fibers inside the frets which are wired down through the truss rod. When the string is pulled off the fretboard, the fret sends a signal to the pickup, and the bass fixes itself. You guys act as if you didn't know this.
bovinehost
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Christine, the Stingray 5.
Oh, ye of little faith. And you call yourself a Bongoloid?
DaddyFlip
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oli@bass
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Real men play four strings... prolem solved 
