Question on Wiring a D-Sonic in JP6

[Josh O]

I just picked up a D-Sonic today to drop into my JP6 and before I totally hose it up, I figured I should get some help from those who have done it already. I know the pickup should be physically installed with the blade facing the neck but how does John have his wired up? Does he still have coils 2 and 3 running together in the mid switch position like the original pickup configuration or is it now coils 1 and 3? I assume if I simply match the colors on the exisiting pickup with the D-Sonic, I'll end up with coils 1 and 3 together because correct me if I'm wrong, installing the D-Sonic ala JP is actually installing it backwards correct? Help!

BTW, I think I grabbed the last one from ya Pete, at least at Bellars!

 

[Random Hero]

I just picked up a D-Sonic today to drop into my JP6 and before I totally hose it up, I figured I should get some help from those who have done it already. I know the pickup should be physically installed with the blade facing the neck but how does John have his wired up? Does he still have coils 2 and 3 running together in the mid switch position like the original pickup configuration or is it now coils 1 and 3? I assume if I simply match the colors on the exisiting pickup with the D-Sonic, I'll end up with coils 1 and 3 together because correct me if I'm wrong, installing the D-Sonic ala JP is actually installing it backwards correct? Help!

BTW, I think I grabbed the last one from ya Pete, at least at Bellars!

I just wired mine up exactly the same as the orginal was wired only with the blade facing the neck.

 

[Josh O]

Thanks Random, how would you compare your middle position tone now compared to the stock JP? If you followed the same wire colors, don't you now have coils 1 and 3 combined now?

 

[Philip]

As I remember he has now coils 1 and 3 for split position. And as I remember John's D-sonic version is different and he can wire it to have coils 2 and 3. With stock d-sonic you can do it by placing the d-sonic with the blade facing the bridge. If you would do it like JP has it you could have problems with phase (but I am not sure, correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[PeteDuBaldo]

Josh,

If you call DiMarzio tech line during the week they can walk you through it.
(800) 221-6468


Thanks for the heads up on snaggin the last one... almost time to order more

 

[Josh O]

Thanks for the info. I'll drop DiMarzio a line tomorrow.

 

[LasagneFTW]

i had talked to Dimarzio about it, and what you end up doing is instead of {red=hot, green=ground, white+black together and used to ground for the coilspit}, you swap the colors so its now {white=hot, black=ground, red+green together used for coilspit}.

if you wire it exactly like the SS is, then the coil with the pole-pieces is the one thats active when split. if you reverse the pickup, you have to swap the active coil that is split.

cause the stock JP6, the Air Norton in the neck is reversed, and the wires are swapped like above.

just as a forwarning, if something sounds alittle weak or something in the middle toggle position, then i listed the hot and ground leads backwards, and they need to be swapped.

 

[gduquette]

This from Dimarzio phone support.... If you have the blade turned to the neck you need to swap the neck pup as well. Then the new wiring for both pups is white from the pup = red on the pc board, Black = Green, Green = Black and Red = White.

 

[LasagneFTW]

This from Dimarzio phone support.... If you have the blade turned to the neck you need to swap the neck pup as well. Then the new wiring for both pups is white from the pup = red on the pc board, Black = Green, Green = Black and Red = White.

yep, sounds exactly like the diagrams they sent me.

just as info, when you say "the neck needs to be swapped as well", you dont have to go flipping the neck pickup in the JP, as its already flipped

 

[gduquette]

I think I got it straight now. Thanks for the clarification on the neck pup.- In other words you don't physically have to turn the neck pup around just it's wiring - has to be the same as the D Sonic.

 

[Josh O]

What if you installed the blade side to the neck but wired the same as the pickup it replaced? Do you still have to change the wiring around for the neck pickup?

 

[LasagneFTW]

I think I got it straight now. Thanks for the clarification on the neck pup.- In other words you don't physically have to turn the neck pup around just it's wiring - has to be the same as the D Sonic.

you dont have to mess with it at all. the wiring is already flipped.

when you put in the reversed d-sonic thats wired different, its a perfect match for the neck pickup.


the original SS and AirNorton combo in the JP is wired up with the normal SS, and a reverse wired (and physically reverse) AirNorton. so when you put in the D-sonic, if you put the bar towards the neck ,you have to flip ONLY the d-sonics wiring. if its out of phase, just swap ONLY the d-sonics hot and ground leads.

if your putting in a d-sonic in a JP guitar, you dont have to do a single thing to the neck pickup, regardless of which orientation the d-sonic is in.

 

[LasagneFTW]

What if you installed the blade side to the neck but wired the same as the pickup it replaced? Do you still have to change the wiring around for the neck pickup?

the neck pickup doesnt need to be changed.

if you put in the d-sonic with the bar towards the neck, but wire it wire-for-wire the same as the steves special, when you split the coils, it will be the bridge-side coil of the airnorton, and the bridgeside (the one with polepieces, not the bar) of the drop sonic. so its not the 2 inner coils anymore...its one inner, one outer. not bad, just a different sound.

when you swap the d-sonics wiring, it makes the barcoil the coil that is on when you split the coils, making it both inner ones again.

 

[Larry]

Wow, this is complicated (leaves thread)

 

[LasagneFTW]

Wow, this is complicated (leaves thread)

haha no kidding...i was so bumfuzzled trying to put it in there. ended up taking it out in the end, too...go figure haha.

 

[beej]

Glad you got it all worked out! Yeah, the physical orientation of the pickup doesn't matter, just the phase. You can always fix that by reversing hot and ground leads.

 

[Fumancha]

Oh my god... i dont speak english a lot so ... i have a little problems to put my d-sonic on my ibanez

Can anyone send me the diagrams to wire the D-sonic ?
The blade will be on the neck side

Thanks!