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iamcatwarrior

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Maybe a guitar tech guy in here could help me out on this one.

After several routine setups and string and 9V battery changes on my 1997 SR4 H, the overall tone of the bass seems to be a bit hollow and tinny. I contrast this with my fretless 2001 Sterling H, whose tone seems to be fully defined.

In the 10+ years I've owned this instrument, honestly, I haven't quite given it the care I currently do in the early years. Whereas I now fully set the bass up on a regular basis, including oiling the neck and fretboard and changing the strings, something is still definitely wrong. Regardless of how much curvature is in the neck, fret buzz is everywhere. The bass possesses nearly no sustain if notes are fretted. While the punch you should expect from a MM bass is there, the tone is still very strange and rather undesirable.

I had once brought this to the attention of Mr. Dan McPherson (the tech who also, I think, verifies the dates of manufacture on our basses). I agreed to get a setup and then things felt a bit better (as far as neck relief), but the tone was still very weird.

I was thinking about the age of the bass and, more specifically, the neck and the pickup. Over time, is it possible that either or both could go bad for any reason? I have heard stories of Fender bass necks going "dead," which I suppose is a result of drying out/warping/something else (?). I have also heard of pickups that may need new magnets. These sorts of things are unfamiliar to me.

Does anyone here know of a way to deal with this? Some ideas would be appreciated. The one thing I do know is that it definitely doesn't sound like new.
 

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On the bass: lows all the way up, mids at center, highs just a bit higher than center.

On the amplifier (Ampeg SVT-350, 4x10" cab): bass ~7, mids ~4, highs ~6; gain ~2-3, master volume adjusted according to clipping. "Pad" button pushed. Limiter engaged.
 

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Pretty much mid scoop you do there.... boosting bass and treble on both, the bass and the amp. Although the StingRays should still sound fine with that, it's the midrange where they really shine -- the typical tone of the single H has lots of strong and defined midrange. Now, if you cut that out, you also cut out a lot of what makes a 'Ray sound like a 'Ray.

However, the buzzing all over the place does sound not very good... and yes, necks can warp... a 1996 SR4 20th I've acquired a couple of months ago suffered from that as well, so I took it to a fine luthier... which reminds me to call him up and check the status! :D

So, I'd definitely check your bass with a luthier. Probably the dead notes are just due to the action beeing too low, so the string vibrates not freely and therefore notes are choked.
 
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iamcatwarrior

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Thanks for the input. I'll push the midrange up the amp a bit the next time I play the SR4 through it.

As for the neck, the action was just recently evaluated and, according to the setup guide provided on the Ernie Ball FAQ page, is fine. Every bass I own, MM or otherwise, has approximately the same action and feels the same to play, but the SR4 suffers from fret buzz whereas all the others do not.

I'll try to take it in and see what can be done with it, because I honestly have no clue.
 

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That's a lot of "lows"...

You might try playing with the input gain on your amp too. I went from an SR5 (which had basically the same electronics as your Sterling) to my 20th SR5 (which is closer to your SR4) and was having a hard time with the tone. Then I got my Bongo5 and had to lower the input gain on my amp. Last week, I pulled out the 20th SR5 for the first time in a while and plugged it in without turning up the input gain on my amp and was blown away by how good it sounded.
 

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I would start with the eq flat on both the bass and the amp and go from there, starting with subtle adjustments on the bass.

Personally, I play with the eq flat on both and the volume between 50% and 75%. Then I bring up the input gain on the amp until it starts to clip, then roll it back just to where it starts to smooth out from that overdriven "farty" tone.
 
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bassfuser

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Maybe the nut is the problem. Could be it is so worn that you don't have enough clearance to get the strings up on the head side of the bass.
 
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