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om07

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I've got a modified SR5. It has a Seymour Duncan Alnico pickups and an Audere 18v 4-band EQ. I also have the original components. Should I return the bass to its original state or keep the upgraded parts?
 

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That's also what I'd do. Back in the old days, I experimented a lot with different pickups and still have what might be considered "aftermarket" models on a couple of Fenders I have lying around. Why did we want aftermarket pickups for our Fenders? Because sometimes the originals didn't deliver.

This, in my humble opinion, is not the case with Music Man pickups. They deliver, in spades.

But everyone hears things differently, so there you go.
 

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Thank you for your comments. I want to have the Sting Ray sound and wanted to know if the SD deliver that sound. I just want to avoid the trouble (time & money) of changing the pickups if the SD actually deliver. What are your thoghts about that?
 

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I had an SR with BassLines PU and SD 3-band.

It sounded very good, but was waaay different
than any of my stock SRs.

So if you wanna know if the SR sound requires
removing the mods, in my experience it's YES.

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I really would sugest for you to change it to original at least for a while. Esspecially with that 18 volt, 4bd eq, the difference should be huge. And as said before, stingray pickups and preamps are one of the greatest ever made so no need to buy aftermarket stuff.
 

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Audere. Eww. Original for sure. On other boards you see people extensively molding their F#@#ers, $pectors, et al, but Very very few about how to improve/mod the tone of their ray, bongo etc
 

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Audere. Eww. Original for sure. On other boards you see
people extensively molding their F#@#ers, $pectors, et al,
but Very very few about how to improve/mod the tone of
their ray, bongo etc

I have a MMI [MM Inspired] one-off ax with an Audere with
the 3-way "Z" switch. It's a great EQ-pre, but it's not at all
like an SR tone. Acoarst, part of the tonal difference might
be the thin-line hollow all-maple body and the purple-heart
FL FB on a skinnier neck ....

Actuawleeee the only thing MMI about it is the presence of
a singular MM-type PU which is located closer to the bridge,
more like the Boingo HH bridge PU . When I get unlazyfied,
I have a pre-EB Sabre PU to drop into it for a bit more MMI.

But I really do luuuuurv that EQ-pre :)

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I can see why people like it - just wasn't really a fan of the voicing of the Z switching. But - all good!
 

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Is is a matter of taste, most professionals mod their stock instruments to their own preferences, also Music Man modded their basses along the years, different pickups, preamps, bridges,necks, woods...so there is not an only stingray tone, do what you like more and feel more comfortable.
 

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Is is a matter of taste, most professionals mod their stock instruments to their own preferences, also Music Man modded their basses along the years, different pickups, preamps, bridges,necks, woods...so there is not an only stingray tone, do what you like more and feel more comfortable.

Most professionals? What professionals heve you seen modding musicman basses? Just curious.
And the stingray bass has actually not changed that much from the original design. If you get a 2band eq you are pretty close to the old stingrays. Changes are mostly in comfort (oiled neck, body contours, trus rod weel,....) but the pickup and woods have remained unchanged as is the basic sound.
 

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Most professionals? What professionals heve you seen modding musicman basses? Just curious.
And the stingray bass has actually not changed that much from the original design. If you get a 2band eq you are pretty close to the old stingrays. Changes are mostly in comfort (oiled neck, body contours, trus rod weel,....) but the pickup and woods have remained unchanged as is the basic sound.

Huh ? I read his remark as written ... IOW it's a broad statement
about working musician's attitudes regarding the sanctity of pure
original unmodded instruments ... who cares, do whatever works
for your performance needs. It was not focused narrowly on only
MM instruments. It is about all players and all instruments, as to
what's a normal approach to personalizing your own stuff.

And he is correct, EBMM has issued numerous distinctly different
takes on their original StingRay. The variations are so distinctly
different that they even get new names, like Sterling, and Sabre,
but those basses ARE various versions of the StingRay, not whole
new instruments such as the Boingo. Even under the StingRay
name you have three or more versions of the SR5 [depending on
how you divide them up] and at least three versions of the SR4.

So clearly there's not just one best way to build an SR type of
bass, and who's to say that only versions dreamt up by EBMM
are worthy ? BP often emphasizes the extreme cost even small
design changes in a production environment, so sometimes you
just gotta do it for yourself.

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Im just saying. Why would you mod something that is perfectly good as it is designed? Why would you mod a 2000$ instrument with parts that cost alot of money and in my opinion dont deliver. Just my point of vieuw.
And the other coment about every professional moding their instrument is just not true. There are 1000's of great artists that just play off the shelf stingrays and other musicman instruments because they are that good.
 

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Hi, I´m not only saying musicman instruments but also others, today is very easy to find excellent aftermarket stuff from many vendors to satisfy whoever tone dream, unfortunately, some years ago in my country, was not possible to repair or find replacement hardware. I recently sent a MM pickup abroad to rewind and had the pickup at home in 4 days !!!, and my bandmate founded an exact replica of his faulty 79 stingray preamp. I own several guitars from the sixties and all have some aftermarket hardware: pickups, bridge, tuners, etc... because I couldn´t find at that time, the same part from fender, gibson, etc..

I appreciate EBMM issued classic series, there are many guys like me who love that 70s stingray tone from Denman, Edwards, Johnson, Palladino, etc...so people don´t need to mod modern stingray with aftermarket stuff.

Best regards.
 
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You said "I want to have the Stingray sound" so wouldn't it make sense to have the components that created that sound? Music Man basses are the least modified for a good reason. They work just fine in stock form. Put the original back.
 
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