Silhouette Temolo Questions

[mizzle]

Hey all,

I have two silhouettes, both with locking floyd type. I was interested in getting one with just a vintage tremolo. Can anyone describe how they feel? I played a JP model at a g****r center and that tremolo felt really smooth and easy. (To be honest, that neck felt really nice too. Thin but so comfortable.) Not sure about the vintage tremolo though. Haven't tried one out so I thought this might be the best place to get some real player experience with them. Any trouble with tuning stability? Thanks.

 

[WHOFAN]

the vintage trem is quite nice... smoothe 2 post trem action... the brass blocks and pop in bar are quite nice touch's... stays in tune rather well for a non-locking trem... but don't except to do Vai style bar stunts and stay in tune... can't ask that of any non-locking trems really

 

[Warg Master]

the vintage trem is quite nice... smoothe 2 post trem action... the brass blocks and pop in bar are quite nice touch's... stays in tune rather well for a non-locking trem... but don't except to do Vai style bar stunts and stay in tune... can't ask that of any non-locking trems really

I disagree. I had a silo with a vintage trem some time ago. I did all sorts of stunts on that trem with no tuning issues what-so-ever. Always kept proper pitch. I still do all sorts of trem stunts on my JP guitars and those things stay in tune like the champions that they are!

 

[WHOFAN]

I disagree. I had a silo with a vintage trem some time ago. I did all sorts of stunts on that trem with no tuning issues what-so-ever. Always kept proper pitch. I still do all sorts of trem stunts on my JP guitars and those things stay in tune like the champions that they are!

must be having better luck than me... my Luke's trem is amazing... not complaining about it at all.. but it does not stay in tune as much as my others do with a quality Floyd after many serious dives... that being said i would not avoid a MM model without a Floyd myself... i love them... it's a great set up

 

[mizzle]

Thanks for the replies. I was wondering about the arm too? So it's a pop in? The guitar I am checking into is an '08. I am not a fan of screw in arms because the threads can become worn and then there is some loose play in it.

I just want it to be a smooth tremolo. I have strats with 6 screw vintage trems and some of them aren't really smooth. I never used a strat with a two point tremolo. The only two points I have ever used would be with Floyd Rose systems. They speak for themselves with ability and tuning. Knowing it isn't a full locking system I wouldn't abuse it like I could on my other Silhouettes w/ Floyds.

One other question about the vintage trem, does it float a little? Can I get true vibrato out of it or does it rest against the body and I could only lower the pitch with a dive of the bar? The stock pic on the MM website looks like it's resting against the body.
Thanks.

 

[DrKev]

It can be set flat or floating (on the Luke it's set floating from the factory). Mine is set to float on my Silhouette Special (see the photo album in my profile for a pic). It's a great smooth unit, and stays in tune as good as any non-locking trem out there. Remember, Luke was happy to dump the Floyds on his signature guitars because he liked the Music Man trem so much!

 

[Warg Master]

It's not a screw in trem bar. It's a pop in.

must be having better luck than me... my Luke's trem is amazing... not complaining about it at all.. but it does not stay in tune as much as my others do with a quality Floyd after many serious dives...

Sounds like you need some Big Bends Nut sauce!

 

[Roubster]

The vintage trem is awesome. I loved mine on the several previous EBMMs I had. I had a Silo Special, 20th Silo, LUKE 2, Standard Silo...i've never had issues with the trems on any of these. I had them all set up to float. Naturally it will not stay in tune like a locking floyd, but they can still definitely take some abuse. Looking forward to owning another EBMM with the vintage trem .

 

[mtrejo]

I prefer the vintage trem. I found it much much smother than the Floyd on my axis. On my Luke it has a very fluid response, probably because it is floating.

 

[WHOFAN]

when i brought home my Luke it was floating... extremely forward for big up bends, i figured the 2 springs in the back had stretched... i guess the store had not done a set up in ages on it as it was there for 4 years before i bought it... first thing i did was change the strings and set the bridge flush... but i'm starting to think maybe a little floating action may be good... we'll see...

Warq Master... i should try some of that Nut Sauce... but in all my years as a guitarist (and a wantabe guitar maker/repairman) i've never used too many lubs like that other then graphite... maybe i should try it as i have heard people say good things about it before... i had a trem nut oil that was a light oil with graphite in it and it was not any better then pencil lead...