Stallion

[DR5Guy]

So when does the Strat get its planned obsolescence?

Seriously, I don't think it holds true in the world of the guitar (or amplifiers for that matter). Look at the classic designs, they're still as valid now as they were 50 or so years ago. Even effects pedals are still (to a large extent) based on circuitry from the '60's (like the Big Muff, Fuzz face etc)

Actually, more and more guitar manufacturers seems to move to the "car' model as well. I was looking recently at some PRS stuff and found that now it is not just Custom 24, but rather 2010 Custom 24, 2011 Custom 24, etc.

 

[Jimmyb]

But what about all the re-issues and tributes etc etc?

 

[jvh]

I don't know if my intention of this thread is what it has become. I just really wanted to know the differences between the new stallion and the jp. I have to say to note some of the other comments that it's pretty cool if you like John Petrucci 's sound you can buy a guitar with the same pickups yet with different specs on other functional aspects of the guitar... It's not like some of the other manufacturers where they just put a different paint job on the guitar. It's actually a guitar with different specs, but looks the same! I don't think you can look a guitar built in the last 10 years or even 20 years or more as a collectible guitar. You really have to look at the "limited editions" as something different than the normal guitar that you can play and enjoy... just because something is limited doesn't mean in 10 years it will be worth more or that ernie ball won't do it again. If theres demand for it sure they'll do it and the benefit is we get to see it again! With all that said, I can't get enough of my limited edition rosewood axis! The limited editions seemed to be priced very fair and give us some variation in just the run of the mill. I don't know if you can consider the jp guitars as collectible or even limited editions in all honesty except maybe the koas(but not really.) With all that said, I'm really looking forward to the new stallion. I personally want to see all the options before making a decision on a jpxi or a new stallion and I think it's right around the corner in January!!!

On a side note yes there are several versions of the jp guitar, but come on wouldn't you rather have several versions of a jp guitar than a guitar that is the same with a bunch of different artists names who can't really play on it aka G****N. Fill the in the blank! Anyways, the petrucci guitars really make you feel like a sophisticated consumer! Now all you have to do is learn how to play! uh oh!!!

 

[Dr.Strangenote]

I'm hoping for a stealth black stallion! BP, any thoughts?

 

[Adrian-XI]

Too much talk, not enough stallion.

 

[straycat113]

I do not see any issue with all the JP models that are available. The JP is EB's most popular model, and offering it with different specs broadens the horizon for players. How many different model Strats are their, if you go over the decades an easy 200 variations, and some as different as night and day. My only issue is that I am in the minority and not a fan of the necks on them.Now I am waiting for Petrucci to get the itch to play a chunkier and neck and I will be all over it. Come on Petruch make my day!

 

[LawDaddy]

I'll think we'll have to wait for the Bonamassa model to get a chunkier neck.

 

[mtrejo]

My take on this whole thing is that John Petrucci has the ultimate Custom Shop in EBMM. So much goes into developing a new model that JP's minds eye can explore. Think of the time that the EBMM team puts into custom making, fine tuning and even pursuing new solutions that the whole development process can take. It's a lengthy process. Exploring every combination of woods, shapes, finishes and electronics to develop THE "perfect" solution.

John's an artist that is bold enough to strive to outdo himself in every way possible. He is always moving forward with his talent, as we all should. I think any true artist has this midset. Evolution does qualify as marketing tool naturally, however, the fact that you can buy the first model JP designed, NEW with options is amazing. I've read many people on the forum that feel x model is perfect for them so I get that the BFR model is the absolute best model for you. Subtract the evolutionary process and this model wouldn't be available to you.

Let's be thankful that EBMM is willing to offer us the end result of such a lengthy trial and error process at an amazing price. That's why we are all devout EBMM users. We get the cream of the cop at the best price, period!

 

[Big Poppa]

ok I will address BFR one mopre time but keep in mind he has issues with us to begin with.

So the first guitar was the only valid one? No it didnt work for you....the second one did...so that is ok to bring to the market. But since you are now happy lets not allow john to create new stuff....what happens if the next one blows your mind?

I cant figure out how any of us can speak for when JP gets his ideas or why or how many notes we allow him. Think about it your definition says that we intentionally design these guitars so you have to buy them....it isnt about you...its about JP.

Follow the logic...dont you think that we would be better suited to make and design a guitar and let increased quantities amortize the development cost? It costs us money to make these new instruments...tons. Some we never have broken even on. Its the price of making tools for artists.

Dr kev you kno w what to do next.

 

[BFR]

If it was only about JP, we would not be able to buy his guitar at all.

No need for DrKev to intervene, this is my last post.

 

[beej]

If it was only about JP, we would not be able to buy his guitar at all.

And if MM was a one-off builder in his basement rather than a business that makes instruments for everyone to play that might be true ...

There's no rule that says you have to buy the newest guitar. Don't. Do. Totally up to you. But I can't see any reasonable explanation as to why Sterling shouldn't put new guitars into production. He just said it, they don't need to do it, and doing it doesn't always turn a profit.

I'm going to shut this down because it's become a bit of downer. But let me close with this: If anyone doesn't understand what makes MM different from many of the guitar companies out there- it's because they're driven with a passion to create new and innovative tools for artists. There's no need to sink all the money they do into R&D (Silent Circuit, compensated nut, renewable materials, Game Changer, and tons of stuff we don't even know about), but they do it because they're passionate about moving the instruments forward. That's what they do every day. And we're lucky to be able to buy the fruits of those labours ... at very reasonable prices I might add.

 

[Big Poppa]

this is the ugly part of a forum. Someone wanted to know the differences between JP's models. Someone decided that JP and I collude to pry money out of your hands as the reason for JP and MM being together. Sad.

Beej....He says its his last post....can we make sure it is.

 

[beej]

We sure can.