Question Steve Morse BFR

[Dreadge]

Hello, everyone! I have been looking for some Steve Morse BFRs on the net there, and on some shops around the Globe. Recently I saw this SM BFR on the eBay, and I didn't had the chance to buy it, because the time had ran out for the auction, and I wasn't any near my computer or any of the matter. So... This particular model that I saw was the standard SM model with, I think, a ebony fingerboard. Now what is my question. Because there is no information that I found on the musicman.com about BFR SM models I was wondering, are there these guitars with some custom wood or color that aren't on the the standard SM models and if there are where could I find or buy them? I found this pretty cool with ebony fingerboard or with the rosewood neck SM guitar and was obsessed with it ever since!

Thank you all!

 

[brokenvail]

There was a SM BFR that had an All Rosewood Neck. It was a std SM except for the neck. There is the Dargie Delight 2 which has a special green paint job that looked like it changes colors in different light. It had an ebony fret board and special inlay but other than that it is a std SM. Lastly there is the Roasted SM. That is also a std SM but had a Roasted Maple Neck, Ebony Fret board and a custom color called black sugar. All of these are ltd and is the reason why they won't show up on the site. There is a Roasted SM right now in the for sale thread in new condition at a great price. Check it out.

 

[tommyindelaware]

didn't know there was such a model....

 

[JMD]

I think Colin has a white SM BFR for sale - rosewood neck....could be repainted/pimped to match the true gold...wait - I didn't say that.

 

[Dreadge]

Well, I'm still searching for it. If there is anyone who has it, would love some infos!

 

[Dreadge]

But what about the wood on the body! Anybody have info on that? Are they with maple top or is poplar changed on the body to some other woods, since it is a BFR model!?

 

[Coffeemug]

But what about the wood on the body! Anybody have info on that? Are they with maple top or is poplar changed on the body to some other woods, since it is a BFR model!?

None of the existing BFR Morses have a different body...it is in all cases a regular production body. So, no maple top or mahogany tone block on these.

 

[brokenvail]

But what about the wood on the body! Anybody have info on that? Are they with maple top or is poplar changed on the body to some other woods, since it is a BFR model!?

As I mentioned in my post all of them are the Regular SM model with a different neck wood and or fret board and or paint color.

 

[yellowv03]

Yep they all are poplar body. The first one bbake1 posted is a Y2D so it has a maple top and may be one of a kind for all we know. The rest are all just the regular poplar body. The olive gold one posted twice in bbakes's links is mine. It is definitely a one off and it is fantastic in every way.

 

[beej]

I've seen a few Y2Ds with the RW neck, they're definitely out there.

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

Now if this was a colour option with the Morse right now--->>> I would be placing an order tomorrow<<<-----!!
I'm sure there are a couple of people in California who would just love a Sky Blue Morse and there is nothing wrong with that.
I'll bet you Canadian dollars though that if the >Olive Gold< was a current option, There would be more interest. I dont understand the current colour options that are available and who picked them- Tangerine pearl??? Music Man probably doesn't care too much what I think anyways. I also bet that if Music Man did an experiment with the online forum and did a mock up colour voting poll, A lot of there current colours would be history and others brought back. Look what the Luke True Gold Thread did....It got a Guitar made into production. I'm not trying to stir the pot or anything. But I really do wonder if Guitar companys listen to their fans and really dig into the real time Feedback thats available with the internet. It could be that they already know what their doing or I'm just rambling on. Sterling once said that Paul Reed Smith told him Sparkly guitars dont sell.
Well I know a guy named Blues who has a Gold Sparkly Albert Lee that most here would give a body part for. Was Paul misdirecting Sterling? Is there a bit of arrogance involved where as " they will like what we give them" !! I would really love the players to have imput. I just cannot see myself buying a Sky Blue anything. Now the Olive Gold is a smart colour. Just rambling on... Sorry

 

[beej]

Sterling has said (on many occasions) ... and I'm paraphrasing ... that if he based his business decisions on us forumites he'd go broke. We're not the majority. Sparkly colours, green guitars, etc. All the colours that aren't available anymore- that's because they didn't sell. MM still offers popular colours, the rest are discontinued. They take a stab every year with new ones ... some make it, some don't.

Dunno if you followed the thread on the bass side about "popular demand" for 19mm string spacing (here), but it's pretty indicative of these kinds of discussions. Tons of talk about how everybody would order it if MM made it. Sterling decided he'd watch people put their money where their mouth, said he'd make it if enough people ordered. In the end ... not even close.

Point being ... they do listen to what people are saying. But they also know what sells.

 

[yellowv03]

As much as I love olive gold it is just one of those colors that don't sell well. Tons of guys wee it on here and are like oh thats the best color ever, but in the end very few of them opened their wallets when it was available.

 

[straycat113]

Sad but true. For the life of me I really cant stand standard black guitars, but go into any GC and you will see tons of them by every company along with red,white and blue in solid finishes. The object is to appeal to the masses and not a couple of hundred guys on a guitar forum. My two favorite colors on the AL HH were Mint Green and Coral Red, both of which did not last a little more than a year. I am sure that if these colors sold well they would still be here, as it is as simple as looking at the inventory and seeing what moved and what did not. I personally would agree with PRS as I do not think sparkly colors are big sellers, but I do understand where you are coming from Floyd. But every year EB will come out with a few things out of the norm, as it sure as hell dont get stale around here on options.

 

[Tollywood]

The "few things out of the norm" are what I find most interesting about EBMM. I mean, look at the shape of the Al? I love it, but it is certainly not the norm...

 

[John C]

Now if this was a colour option with the Morse right now--->>> I would be placing an order tomorrow<<<-----!!
I'm sure there are a couple of people in California who would just love a Sky Blue Morse and there is nothing wrong with that.
I'll bet you Canadian dollars though that if the >Olive Gold< was a current option, There would be more interest. I dont understand the current colour options that are available and who picked them- Tangerine pearl??? Music Man probably doesn't care too much what I think anyways. I also bet that if Music Man did an experiment with the online forum and did a mock up colour voting poll, A lot of there current colours would be history and others brought back. Look what the Luke True Gold Thread did....It got a Guitar made into production. I'm not trying to stir the pot or anything. But I really do wonder if Guitar companys listen to their fans and really dig into the real time Feedback thats available with the internet. It could be that they already know what their doing or I'm just rambling on. Sterling once said that Paul Reed Smith told him Sparkly guitars dont sell.
Well I know a guy named Blues who has a Gold Sparkly Albert Lee that most here would give a body part for. Was Paul misdirecting Sterling? Is there a bit of arrogance involved where as " they will like what we give them" !! I would really love the players to have imput. I just cannot see myself buying a Sky Blue anything. Now the Olive Gold is a smart colour. Just rambling on... Sorry

As long as someone puts up the cash, Sterling has been willing to do it. How about Blue Dawn? That color was killed off in circa 2004 but was brought back for the 2007 Limited Editions. The True Gold is another good example.

I don't think PRS was trying to misdirect Sterling; I think he was just sharing his observations. Remember, PRS had some out there finishes in the 80s such as the Metal (with the multicolored stripes) and the crackle finishes. From time to time some hard-core PRS players make noise about bringing those finishes back and I believe one dealer did do a run of 10-20 guitars with the Metal finish (unlike EBMM these were PRS "Private Stock" and carried a high price, not a small upcharge like the LEs).

I've had a couple of odd color EBMMs over the years - a Blue Dawn LE and an olive gold.

 

[yellowv03]

I think it is awesome that EBMM does those random odd colors. Most other companies do a few finishes and thats it. I think we get plenty of options.

 

[beej]

I think there's so much of a 'want what you can't have' mentality too. Stuff I didn't like at first looks way cooler later, when it's unavailable. The True Gold Luke is a great example of that.

 

[ScreaminFloyd]

I think there's so much of a 'want what you can't have' mentality too. Stuff I didn't like at first looks way cooler later, when it's unavailable. The True Gold Luke is a great example of that.

Your probably right about that. I never thought I would buy a white guitar. After hearing a White Silo Special s/s/s I bought it cause it sounded so flippin awesome. After playing a Morse awhile back, I can't stop thinking about it and the shop near here has a Tobacco Burst Morse Hardtail that is off the charts in tone. The clear pickguard is buggin me though. I wonder if anyone has taken off the Morse pickguard and just put the srews back in? Just me I guess. It will most likely go home with me in the near future.

 

[yellowv03]

The clear pickguard on the Y2D also holds the pickups, so you would not be able to just take the pickguard off. You would have to either diect mount the pickups or make up some kind of pickup rings which would be a challenge with the Morse's pickup config.