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Jimi D

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As I mentioned last week, I'd ordered an OLP/Line6 Guitar Port pack because I wanted a Guitar Port, and I figured that for an extra $30 I might as well get the guitar (and strap, strings, picks, cheapie patch cord and headphones) too... Well, they arrived yesterday, and I have to say that it's a great little package for the money... I don't know if they're still producing them though, as it's clear from the software packed in with the GuitarPort and the inspection sticker date on the guitar that this particular package was produced before Christmas 2002... Anyway, about the guitar...

The OLP MM4 is basically a Silhouette-style guitar manufactured in China. From a distance, it could easily pass as a Silhouette with it's familiar shape and 4x2 headstock, but of course it isn't. The first thing I noticed about the guitar was how very light it is; maybe 6.5 or 7 lbs (max.), and because of that I'm presuming it's made of Basswood - which is fine, 'cause I like Basswood as a tone wood. On closer inspection, I could see the finish was very well applied to the body and headstock, and the hardware appears to be of a decent quality - nothing spectacular, but as good as the stuff on my MiM Strat. In fact, my $600 MiM Deluxe Strat came straight out of the box with fret-ends jutting out of the fingerboard and a bridge with a handful of stripped hex-bolts (the ones that raise/lower the saddles) and a hex-key that was completely the wrong size to adjust them. My MM4 - on the other hand - has a great feeling neck and the bridge is cleanly manufactured and comes with a hex-key that fits. Also, the neatly-cut, three-ply pickguard and backplate are worthy of mention if for no other reason than that they are so much better than the crap that came attached to my Carvin DC-127... The pickups sound surprisingly good - much better than I had reason to expect at this price point - and the neck/middle combo is especially fruity and sweet. I really like the fact that the exposed truss-rod adjustment wheel at the base of the neck has been kept here - it's one of my favorite features of EB/MM guitars, because I live in a rather extreme climate and frequent truss-rod tweeks are a requirement... The tuners feel smooth, and hold the tuning well - I stretched the strings for a while and then tuned up and went to town on some of my fave, double-bends and blues riffs for about 20 minutes, and everything was still in tune after the fact. For the price, I don't think I can criticize the hardware, really...

The biggest disappointment was that the neck is nothing like any EB/MM neck I've ever played - it has a shallow "C" shape with a relatively flat radiused board, and feels very much like the neck on my aforementioned MiM Deluxe Strat. Still, it has neatly finished frets, and a nice smooth feel, and it's very playable. Of course, there are some rough spots in the finishing: the nut slot is too wide for the nut that's set into it, the edges of the headstock could have used a good hand-sanding after coming off the CNC, and there's a chip about the size of half a matchhead missing from the bass edge of the fretboard just in front of the 10th fret (it doesn't affect playability but I can feel it with my thumb). Also, there's a knot grain in my fretboard! Yes, an actual knot! like in knotty pine! I've never seen a fretboard with a knot in it before... it's kinda cool!

All-in-all, however, I'm really pleased with the fit and finish of this guitar. Is it an Ernie Ball Music Man guitar? No, but it looks like one :cool: Is it as good as a real Silhouette? Not even close! but it is a far better guitar than the bargain basement price would suggest... In fact, this guitar compares very favorably with that MiM Strat I keep mentioning, only at about one-third the price (retail). For what I paid, it's a steal, and I think I'll be keeping it around for a while.
 
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I am kind of disapointed in the bad review about the neck...but how great of a deal it is there is no reason to nit-pick about anything.
 

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Hey Jimi

Sorry to get off topic but... I saw your comment on the carvin DC. What's your take on that guitar over all?

I'm just curious.
 

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hbucker said:
Hey Jimi

Sorry to get off topic but... I saw your comment on the carvin DC. What's your take on that guitar over all?

I'm just curious.
Well hbucker, I know many, many people love Carvins, but I was completely dissatisfied with mine... From a quality standpoint, I thought it was really rather sloppy in a lot of areas - for example, the neck was unfinished, and the line where the finished body gives way to the unfinished neck was sloppy and jagged. The trem plate and control cavity cover were made of the cheapest styrene plastic I've ever seen used in guitar construction. Other irritating observations were that the pots and switch were crap, the nut was cheap plastic, the neck felt "CNC'd" (square-shouldered, hard-edged, machined, with barely adequate fret work - and the wide/thin shape was not to my liking either), the pickups were mediocre, and the switches and knobs were awkwardly placed. In the end, I was grossly disappointed - I honestly cannot see how Carvin enjoy the reputation they have today if that guitar was representative of their output. By that guitar, I would have to hazard that the only reason they sell these guitars "direct only" is because no one would buy them if they had a chance to play them first! And I - for one - will never buy another.
 

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What year was your guitar?

Up until a few years ago I too thought their pots and switches were very unworthy of a quality guitar. My understanding is that they've upgraded them in the last year or two and are no longer having the same problems.

While I don't mind the necks (I've got one of their bolt necks on a guitar I built and it does well) but they were an acquired taste for me. And I agree, they would be much better if they rounded the edges of the fretboard.

I've seen some of the kinds of things you talked about on guitars at their Santa Ana outlet but by my understanding many of those are seconds and returns so I wasn't sure their first quality guitars showed similar flaws. Over all I do think their quality is good and their value is good but the kinds of stuff you mentioned would concern me if I were ordering one. Their 10 day return policy requires you to pay postage. I don't think that's the great deal they seem to think it is. On their forum they seem to have no idea what you’re talking about if you imply that $25-50+ is a lot to pay for just trying out a guitar or amp. To me it’s a lot when for the price of a gallon of gas I can drive around town and try out everyone else’s gear.

I too am not sure about their pickups. I've tried two of their humbuckers. I think they're the M22's. I absolutely hated the bridge pickup. It was really bright with no lows or mids. I put it in at least two different guitars with the same results. The neck is o.k. I still have it in one of my guitars. For a humbucker it's very clean and bell like. Not bad. Good in fact. Just not what I expect from a neck humbucker. It actually sounds more single coil to me. I guess their C series pickps are warm and very PAF like. But I’ve read so many reviews from people who have similar experiences with their pickups that it makes me wonder.

I tend to Support Carvin and think they generally put out good products that feeds an important niche in the market. For the most part I consider myself one of those niche people. They have many loyalists who would say they make the best stuff period. I can’t go there but I don’t think that’s a slam on Carvin. Their guitar amps tend to be quite good. I'm specifically thinking of their Legacy and Bel Air models. Again, their P.A. stuff is a great value for the money. Again, interpret that however you want.

Thanks
 
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That guitar was a late nineties model - 98 or 99, I can't remember... The pickups were the C22s I think - maybe it was M22... I was playing Jems almost exclusively back when I owned it, and it seemed like a good deal for half the cost of a Jem - but the Ibanez guitars were much nicer imho... anyway, I would like to pick up one of the new Frank Gambale sig. preamps to try out one day; I picked up my JMP-1 largely because it was his preamp of choice, and after an initial learning period, I've loved it to this day...
 

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Just picked up a blue sparkle OLP MM4 and I’m totally impressed.
Yes, NOT an EBMM! But definitely a worthy guitar!
The fretboard radius is 16”... that was new for me.
Hardware is above decent non-branded...
Completely gutted the electronics as the previous owner had done something quite “unique” with them.
Even the nut appears to be original, but well cut for an inexpensive piece of plastic.

I got it for a mod base... and completely happy with it. It’s definitely worthy of any mods I’ll decide to do to it!
 
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