Trem routing for Musicman AXIS ?

[rockinruss]

First of all hello !

I LOVE my new musicman axis but i'd quite like to be able to do some via'isms
(flutters etc) only snag, as most people here probably know, the floyd rests against the body..just wondering if anyone in the same situation has dared to do any routeing ?!

 

[beej]

Yeesh, I wouldn't route it.

The Luke has the same trem but it's set to float slightly (you can pull up three semitones on the G string).

So If you want flutter why not try that instead? (It works great on the Axis.)

 

[lumberjack]

Do yourself a favor. Do not route the Axis. Take Beej's suggestion and try to float the bridge. Plus, if you route it, and you decide to sell it one day, you've basically screwed yourself out of any kind of resale value.

 

[rockinruss]

Not heard of the luke trem...have to check that out

Trouble is i love the floyd alot, also i cant imagine wanting to sell my musicman at all really...

I have set the floyd to float slightly but this raises the action, do the trem posts screw downwards like an edge pro does ? The axis trem posts look like theyre set in a fixed position.


Apologies if i sound like a newb i just got the guitar!

 

[beej]

Ah, sorry- I was thinking Axis Super Sport with the vintage trem, not the Axis with Floyd.

It will raise the string height slightly. You may need to shim the neck slightly to compensate- I'm not sure. But same principle applies. All depends how much float you want.

 

[TonyEVH5150]

Welcome to the best forum on the internet!

This can usually be done with a spring adjustment, and a truss rod tweak. An Axis that I owned was originally set up this way, and all I had to do was reverse the process to put it back to normal.

You can rout it if you want. The only thing it will hurt is the resale value. My only word of caution is, If you're not comfortable with doing it, take it to a professional. I've seen some real hack jobs on these guitars.

 

[mesadualrec]

I think if you or someone else does a REALLY pro job on it then it wont harm the guitar at all

I think if you really love everything about the guitar and have only one qualm and you think you can sort it then by all means go for it


post pics if or when its done

Euan

 

[rockinruss]

Welcome to the best forum on the internet!

This can usually be done with a spring adjustment, and a truss rod tweak. An Axis that I owned was originally set up this way, and all I had to do was reverse the process to put it back to normal.

You can rout it if you want. The only thing it will hurt is the resale value. My only word of caution is, If you're not comfortable with doing it, take it to a professional. I've seen some real hack jobs on these guitars.

Thanks !

I wouldnt dream of doing it myself ( i dont have the tools for a start!) but as i see it it would only need a very small amount of routing to make it work....the flip side is as i've only just realised (doh!) is the detuning string breaking staying in tune thing is only going to work when the floyd is resting on the body....hmmmm

 

[TNT]

In my opinion, after years of trial and (heartbreak) error, I wouldn't do a thing on that Axis. That Axis is MADE and designed to rest on the body, and all pertaining principles apply to that fact!!

If you raise this, lower this, mod this, turn this, your just "jackin' up the guitar,
and twisting the guitar out of its "normal" functioning position. Staying in tune may be the least of your problems after your through. Then trying to get it back to normal after it was "jacked" up - well, you may be singin' heartbreak hotel.

If you want a floating trem, buy a guitar that was "designed" around this principle. Again, just my OP

 

[Astrofreq]

In my opinion, after years of trial and (heartbreak) error, I wouldn't do a thing on that Axis. That Axis is MADE and designed to rest on the body, and all pertaining principles apply to that fact!!

If you raise this, lower this, mod this, turn this, your just "jackin' up the guitar,
and twisting the guitar out of its "normal" functioning position. Staying in tune may be the least of your problems after your through. Then trying to get it back to normal after it was "jacked" up - well, you may be singin' heartbreak hotel.

If you want a floating trem, buy a guitar that was "designed" around this principle. Again, just my OP

+1. I miss having a truly floating trem, though. I wish they would adapt the JP style over to the Axis.

 

[beej]

In my opinion, after years of trial and (heartbreak) error, I wouldn't do a thing on that Axis. That Axis is MADE and designed to rest on the body, and all pertaining principles apply to that fact!!

I don't necessarily agree- it's pretty easy to float the trem a bit and might not require much of a setup change.

The Axis Super Sport also has a resting trem and it's the exact same setup as the Luke which floats slightly. There's really no downside to giving it a go, it's fully reversible ... just tighten a few springs.

 

[TNT]

Yeah Beej,

I would agree a "bit" would be viable. But a real "floating trem" setup - no way!!

 

[TonyEVH5150]

Not to stray too far from the EBMM part, but the OLP MM1F is a MM Axis with an original Floyd, and it has the recessed rout for the Floyd. Maybe one of those would be an option for a floating trem.

 

[rockinruss]

I'll probably leave the idea alone for a while then...

Can anyone tell me how to get the floyd trem arm so it falls away without there being any 'play' in the joint ?

 

[lumberjack]

If buying another guitar is an option in the near future, look at getting a John Petrucci model. It has a great floating bridge system. And the bonus is you don't need the locking nut. It's very stable and doesn't go out of tune.

 

[Tim O'Sullivan]

I have seen it done, the routing that is, and if thats you bag, go for it!