truss rod/action questions - raz? jongitarz?

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the measurement on my jp6 are
action at 12th fret - 4/64"
straight edge and feeler guage at 7th fret - 0.008"
i get buzz over the fretboard
mainly on lower strings
and all the way from 2-15

so i want lower action and no buzz obvioulsy
so will i need more relief to accomodate this?
i know 0.008 is very low
i just thought i should get some proper advice before screwing around with my guitar
any help would be very much appreciated
thanks alot

 

[Raz]

the measurement on my jp6 are
action at 12th fret - 4/64"
straight edge and feeler guage at 7th fret - 0.008"
i get buzz over the fretboard
mainly on lower strings
and all the way from 2-15

so i want lower action and no buzz obvioulsy
so will i need more relief to accomodate this?
i know 0.008 is very low
i just thought i should get some proper advice before screwing around with my guitar
any help would be very much appreciated
thanks alot

I'll tell you something, being grouped in the header with Jon is really mind boggling, I mean I am honored but in no way do I belong...
We've discussed this before so I've searched the forums to find Jon's input on this, here is the general rule of thumb:

The guitars come from the factory with the strings set at 2/32 at the 12th fret from the top of the fret to the bottom of the string. That is pretty much industry standard and a really good starting point.

If you are getting a buzz in the lower end of the fret board,you need more relief. If the buzz happens in the upper part of the neck, make the fret board flatter(less relief) and raise the saddles until the buzz stops.

Now I think your neck is just too straight. .008" is like 1/128th of an inch. I don't use a feeler guage I simply eyeball the gap, and I use this in conjunction with the action height. Think this through logically for a second if you fret a note at the 12th fret and the neck is perfectly straight, then the sting, whilst vibrating will buzz because there is absolutely no room for the movement of said vibration(especially with low action)...now if we take the opposite case to an extreme and invision a neck that has a huge bow, while fretting the 12th fret, there is room for the string to vibrate, thus no buzz. I know it sounds silly, and I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I had my Pet's action down to 1/32" and I never measured the gap, I just checked to see that there was a visible gap. Did I have fret buzz, hey with a low B string of course I did, but that was unplugged, once I plugged in and cranked it the only mis notes or buzzes occrred because of innacurate or poor playing.

 

[Raz]

Oh I forgot to mention I wanted to repond to your other post but as soon I saw your mention of the feeler guage I got scared

 

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thanks alot raz
i think i am ready to spin that truss nut
one more thing
looking towards the head stock
is it lefty tighty, righty loosey?

 

[Raz]

In your case you want to turn that wheel COUNTER CLOCKWISE

A "turn" as defined here is inserting an adjustment tool and moving a spoke of the wheel from one side of the neck to the other side.

 

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so looking towards the headstock
turn it left
and it will loosen the nut?

 

[Raz]

so looking towards the headstock
turn it left
and it will loosen the nut?

Well, yes...

oh and don't forget, you'll need to lower the action as gaining more relief will obviously raise your current action. If you are comfortable with adjusting the individual saddles and your tremplate is nice and level as is, then I suggest doing it that way...

 

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ok so ive got my bow to .014"
action at 2/32"
on each string

when you say you had 1/32"
is that on every string?

i am still getting a bit of buzz here and there
i think i will let it settle
try again tomorrow

 

[Raz]

ok so ive got my bow to .014"
action at 2/32"
on each string

when you say you had 1/32"
is that on every string?

i am still getting a bit of buzz here and there
i think i will let it settle
try again tomorrow

Normally I only check the low strings, then follow the general radius...I find I like a little higher action on my high strings so I can get under them and bend effectively.

Hey it sounds like you're doing great, congrats. You can in my opinion, gain a touch more relief if the buzzing gets to you still...Yeah give the neck time to settle, I find also with the added pressure of playing, these human-like EBMM necks react...so give it time. The main reason I like doing my own set ups is, that I find it's an on going process, things like humidity, new/old strings, playing habits all add added stress to the neck and therefore they require constant attention...kind of like women

 

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definitely agree with you about the women

 

[Raz]

definitely agree with you about the women

You mean that even in Australia the women can be, how shall I say this, pains in the ol' arse

 

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no way a pain in the arse (did you say arse instead of ass to compensate for my australianess?)
but i agree they require constant attention
in many ways

 

[Raz]

no way a pain in the arse (did you say arse instead of ass to compensate for my australianess?)
but i agree they require constant attention
in many ways

No I've always used arse, I mean said arse