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oli@bass

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There are a couple of less then ideal settings:

1.) A graphic EQ should always be set to average around the 0 mark. So if you have a smiley curve, move the outer sliders (bass and treble side) above 0 and the inner sliders (mids) below 0. With the shown setting you're mainly making the signal louder (by roughly 9dB), which is not the purpose of the EQ.

2.) Your gain is rather high and your master volume very low. I guess you're overdriving the preamp with this setting. Is that on purpose? If not, lower the gain and raise the master volume.

3.) With the shown graphic EQ setting you're removing mids. With the parametric EQ setting, you're adding mids again. All in, it looks like you're more or less just making everything louder. Again, lower the graphic EQ setting and raise the master volume.

4.) If I see that correctly, on the 'Ray you have bass and mid flat and are boosting the treble a bit. On the amp, you're boosting the bass a bit and the mids. I don't know how your cab sounds, but that setting is contrary to the "vintage" sound you want to acheive (fat, almost boomy bass, tamed mids and less prominent treble).

Judging from the settings (and my experience with Ampeg preamps and heads), I'd like to suggest that you:
  • should first set your amp completely flat and try to experiment with the EQ on the bass alone, learning its range and the different tones you can get straight from the bass without any exterior help.
  • should try a good overdrive pedal (SansAmp PBDDI, Fulltone Bass-Drive, MB Distorsore) and a compressor (MB compressore) to acheive the fat punchy sound you are trying to squeeze out of your equalizer.
 

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There are a couple of less then ideal settings:

1.) A graphic EQ should always be set to average around the 0 mark. So if you have a smiley curve, move the outer sliders (bass and treble side) above 0 and the inner sliders (mids) below 0. With the shown setting you're mainly making the signal louder (by roughly 9dB), which is not the purpose of the EQ.

2.) Your gain is rather high and your master volume very low. I guess you're overdriving the preamp with this setting. Is that on purpose? If not, lower the gain and raise the master volume.

3.) With the shown graphic EQ setting you're removing mids. With the parametric EQ setting, you're adding mids again. All in, it looks like you're more or less just making everything louder. Again, lower the graphic EQ setting and raise the master volume.

4.) If I see that correctly, on the 'Ray you have bass and mid flat and are boosting the treble a bit. On the amp, you're boosting the bass a bit and the mids. I don't know how your cab sounds, but that setting is contrary to the "vintage" sound you want to acheive (fat, almost boomy bass, tamed mids and less prominent treble).

Judging from the settings (and my experience with Ampeg preamps and heads), I'd like to suggest that you:
  • should first set your amp completely flat and try to experiment with the EQ on the bass alone, learning its range and the different tones you can get straight from the bass without any exterior help.
  • should try a good overdrive pedal (SansAmp PBDDI, Fulltone Bass-Drive, MB Distorsore) and a compressor (MB compressore) to acheive the fat punchy sound you are trying to squeeze out of your equalizer.

well first of all the reason why my master is so low is because i live in an apartment so i wouldn't want to piss off my neighbors. and yes the high gain is because i like some drive and grittyness to the tone. i was blown away by a markbass amp i tried at guitar center with a stingray classic and figured out more along the lines of the tone i'm looking for. the only thing is my ampeg head doesn't have a high mid/ low mid/ knob. it only one has ultra mid. on the classic i had the bass and treble fully boosted.

on my 'ray the mid is flat while the bass and treble are around 2-3:00. and as for the drive pedal i want to get a Tech 21 VT bass pedal or sansamp bass DI. i will definately try your suggestions and post what i like and don't like.


ok after a couple of hours of playing and messing around with the stingray preamp for the moment i've adjusted my settings to these:

Ampeg: Gain: 6, Bass: 7, Mid:5, Treble: 6
stealth 'ray: bass: 3-4:00, mid: 11:00, Treble: 1-2:00
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oli@bass

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Ampeg: Gain: 6, Bass: 7, Mid:5, Treble: 6
stealth 'ray: bass: 3-4:00, mid: 11:00, Treble: 1-2:00

Yep, that's a more logical setting if you want to get the sound of a maxxed out 2 band EQ 'Ray :)


i was blown away by a markbass amp i tried at guitar center with a stingray classic and [...] on the classic i had the bass and treble fully boosted.

That is a nice combination... I love the sound of my '83 'Ray through the MoMark with tube pre and EQ set flat!
 
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Yep, that's a more logical setting if you want to get the sound of a maxxed out 2 band EQ 'Ray :)




That is a nice combination... I love the sound of my '83 'Ray through the MoMark with tube pre and EQ set flat!

Yeah I'm thinking if I should trade in my ampeg for markbass but it'd probably be for a markbass 8x10. I used a little mark head at GC though. I want to try the bigger one
 
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