wait time on a BFR??

[puppyonacid]

Just made an enquiry. The chaps at strings & things told the guy who made the enquiry for me that it would be 3 months. I'm guessing that's wrong. Isn't it more like 6 months, especially since I'm ordering from over the pond? Was a F-1 I asked about.

Can anyone confirm this for me? Ta Muchly.

 

[Beth]

What's up, Pup?

Yeah, I think 3 months may be a bit too soon. We're accepting orders for approximately mid- to late-November right now, not including transport and distribution time, so 4-5 months is probably more like it.

Cheers!
-Beth

 

[puppyonacid]

Thankyee Beth. I feel all warm and fuzzy now. Dunno why
I think I'll have one of those please. Just can't make my mind up about the colour. I'm leaning towards walnut.....anyway, thanks again.

 

[Larry]

Walnut sounds good.

 

[Danserrano]

can't go wrong with any of them to be honest with ya, but u know that alrdy pup =D

 

[Ricman]

Great choice!! PM sent...

 

[the24thfret]

I was under the impression the wait time is much longer than 6months....

 

[adamrogo]

4-5 months isn't exactly accurate.

I ordered January 26th, a mere 8 days after NAMM, and my guitar is estimated to be made in the first week of August.

Seems like 7+ months is more like it.

 

[the24thfret]

Yeah, to elaborate, I've heard nearly 9 months now.

 

[puppyonacid]

Well the longer the better for me really. I can put a silly down payment on it and they'll order it for me. Then at least I know it's coming and I can pay it off a bit at a time. When he said 3 months I thought there's no way I can get the cash together. But 6-9 months is perfect really.

I sent you an email ricman.

 

[kevin]

4-5 months isn't exactly accurate.

actually its pretty accurate, or as accurate as it can get. The first run of an instrument generally takes a little longer than subsequent runs there after. As of now we are on a 4-5 month back order...with all instruments being made to order the back order time fluctuates. So the b/o time in January is going to be different than it is in July. Of course this is all tentative because all of the BFR's receive 10+ delivery times can vary depending on availability of wood. There are many factors that go into it...and its not an exact science. First and foremost we want to make sure that we are sending out a top notch quality first instrument, not cutting corners to meet a specific eta.

 

[adamrogo]

actually its pretty accurate, or as accurate as it can get. The first run of an instrument generally takes a little longer than subsequent runs there after. As of now we are on a 4-5 month back order...with all instruments being made to order the back order time fluctuates. So the b/o time in January is going to be different than it is in July. Of course this is all tentative because all of the BFR's receive 10+ delivery times can vary depending on availability of wood. There are many factors that go into it...and its not an exact science. First and foremost we want to make sure that we are sending out a top notch quality first instrument, not cutting corners to meet a specific eta.

My bad, I was just basing this off of observations from people who ordered Dargies and 20th Silo's, and also my own experience with the BFR.

4-5 is nothing!

 

[kevin]

no worries adam, just making sure we're all on the same page. There a lot of variables...IE: paint sceme's and other variations instrument to instrument. Goal #1 is always putting out a "Music Man" quality instrument that meets and exceeds the expectations people have come to associate with the MM brand.

 

[adamrogo]

I guess the whole process isn't quite how I imagined it. I thought they are built in the order that the orders are received. So if I ordered my BFR in January, and someone else orders a plain JP6 in January but right after me, I figured that their guitar would be built right after mine.

Though I have seen some LE JP6's posted, that were ordered in March if I recall correctly, so I suppose that I'm wrong.

How does the whole process work? I remember BP talking about "buckets" though it wasn't so clear to me.

 

[kevin]

I guess the whole process isn't quite how I imagined it. I thought they are built in the order that the orders are received. So if I ordered my BFR in January, and someone else orders a plain JP6 in January but right after me, I figured that their guitar would be built right after mine.

Though I have seen some LE JP6's posted, that were ordered in March if I recall correctly, so I suppose that I'm wrong.

How does the whole process work? I remember BP talking about "buckets" though it wasn't so clear to me.

For the most part your right. Basically once you place your order its like getting a spot in line for your favorite ride at disney land. However there are a few things that come into play. First and foremost wood. The LE JP's are in Blue Dawn with Blue Dawn being non-transparent the astetic factor of the wood doesn't come into play. With transparent finishes, especially the BFR's since they all receive top notch graded maple tops, we can only build as many as we have the wood to put out at that particular time. Natural SR's take longer than Black SR's on average etc, etc. Now something to also consider is that this is the FIRST run of BFR's so naturally they are going to take a bit longer to manufacture than the LE JP's which are only receiving cosmetic changes. The BFR JP is a completely new instrument. As with any new instruments the first production run generally will not be in line with a model that has been on the market and been produced for years. Of course we need the factory to keep moving and producing instruments at all times. So if there is a BFR that isn't able to move through the factory due to the fact we're waiting for a wood shipment we won't shut down the factory to reserve its spot in line.....We will continue on and make a LE JP or another instrument. That is why you may see orders for LE's that were taken after your BFR order being delivered now.

 

[adamrogo]

Thanks for explaining things!

I'm guessing there's a good amount of wood shortages for BFR's at the moment. So perhaps 4-5 months is a good estimate for a normal guitar, but one with a maple top ie. BFR will have a longer wait.

I guess that also explains why some of the 20th's took forever to ship.

 

[kevin]

Well not right now, just in general. There was a great article that someone posted a link to that went over the rariety of some of these woods that have been so vital to our industry. We always have lots of maple shipments coming in....but it doesn't all get passed/approved. As BP has talked about the BFR's only receive the best tops available. Keep in mind guys....all instruments that come out of the Music Man factory are made to order....we dont' make 300 BFR's and then divvy them out or we don't have 100 Black Stingrays sitting on the shelf ready to ship because we know they'll sell. An instrument doesn't get made until we get an actual order placed for it.....so giving an eta that is down to the date accurate is nearly impossible. We try and do the best we can and as the delivery time gets closer our eta's become more and more accurate.