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Mods: if these kinds of threads are not allowed, please delete and I apologize

MusicMan link: I'm gonna play it on one.

This is driving me crazy..Can't figure out what chord is being played in the 5th bar.
It's : Intro (guitar harmony thing), then Dm, A# and then the chord I'm looking for.

Bass line resolves to Am, but the guitarist doesn't seem to be playing that...or perhaps some weird voicing. Any ideas would be great..

If you are wondering what the jibberish is..it's Dutch.

 

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My first thought was diminished (Ab D F B) but G7 is the better fit (G7/6 probably closest to the full harmony but not an issue for the guitar player here as bass and brass are taking care of the 6). Think open chord D7 shape played at the 5th fret (G D F B).
 
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I love these kind of things :D
Once I played a chord that fit right in with the song we were creating but it took us 15 minutes to figure out what chord it was: DmMaj7 b5 no 3rd <- Yeah it's a mouthful :p
 

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I love these kind of things :D
Once I played a chord that fit right in with the song we were creating but it took us 15 minutes to figure out what chord it was: DmMaj7 b5 no 3rd <- Yeah it's a mouthful :p

Um, well, it might be cheating to use a website rather than doing the exercise to name a chord.....but I use this one all the time as I tend to get songs 2 or 3 days at most before rehersal and figuring out what's what takes too much time without....uh....cheating.

JGuitar
 

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Em, but not really. Since the bass resolves to A, you can also call it Am9. The bass does E C A (A minor arpeggio) And the guitar does E G B. Although that is clearly an Em in the guitar, the fact that the bass outlines an Am makes a more compelling argument for Am9. It's just that the guitar is omitting the root and the 3rd and only playing 5, 7, 9.

So long story short. Am9.....or Em....
 

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Thanks for the help all!

Am9 sounded "right" (actually, I think it sounds like sh*t, but hey, if that's what the artist intended, fine...)
 

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Am9? Sounds like sh*t for a reason. It's wrong. :) You should give your ears more credit! The B in the top voice is right but my ear hears a diminished or dominant chord. It's also a weak sounding resolution, like an imperfect cadence, suggesting subdominant to tonic motion.

It's sounds a lot like the James Bond theme, which in this key would be Dm - Dm#5 - Dm6 - Dm#5. That's a strong clue. So lets try it over this song.

Simplifying to three note chords [DFA] - [DFBb] - [DFB] - [DFA] (which are easily played in 5th position on the G, B, and E strings) sounds great over the progression. [DFB] spells a G7 with no root. Makes sense too - G is subdominant in the key of D, hence our weak resolution to the Dm. Now lets look at the bass...

...and the bass is really supporting this idea - right with us for the first two chords, playing D - F - A (which is Dm), Bb - D - F (Dm#5, 2nd inversion). But note that just for the duration of the mystery chord, the bass is harmonising the horn melody with B-G-E-G (bass is playing a B, not a C) and not really supporting the harmony.

Even so, the G and B still suggests a G major triad and would be in a G7 chord anyway. The E in the bass line implies the added 6 for a G7/6. It could also be written as a polychord Em/G7 (EGB over GBDF).

Personally, for a guitar chart I'd either specify G7 (no root) 5th position because the voicing is so important (we need that A-Bb-B motion on the high E-string) or I'd simply write James bond triads.
 
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Its a weak reso...Dm Bb and G... on the 1st three strings (A F D) (Bb F D) and (B G D..maybe add the B on the 4th string) Very reggae inspired... all upstrokes and in teh key of D
 

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Thanks for the help all!

Am9 sounded "right" (actually, I think it sounds like sh*t, but hey, if that's what the artist intended, fine...)

Just to be sure that I'm not misunderstood.. I meant the actual chord in the actual song sounds like sh*t...not the suggestion by Richie, which sounded "right" to me (the chord I was looking for). I will try the other suggestions tonight..Thanks all!
 

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I am on a laptop sitting on the stoop so I am nowhere near a guitar but this was a great thread and one I would like to see more of -talking about chords,scales or techniques which I love to do.
 

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Wait, my bad. The bass and guitar is outlining the Em and the horn is outlining Am (I got that part mixed up in my previous post.) I don't know what the hell I was listening to. So if you want to know the guitar part, that funky sounding chord is Em.

That chord still spells out an Am9 since it has A C E G B (bass + horns) but, yeah on second listen it's Em.
 

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My vote is for Em.

Listening to it in "Transcribe!", the top B note in the guitar chord is fairly clear, and the spectrum analysis (see attachment) shows the presence of E and G notes. The C spike in the spectrum is from the sax, not part of the chord. ("Transcribe!" guesses the chord to be C/G...but I think it's confused by the sax!). Em, Cmj7, Am9...all cousins...all share E, G, B notes.

So...Sounds like the chords are Dm (at 5th fret), Bb (at 6th fret), Em (7th fret).

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Yeah, I love it too! Tanax, if it had no third, could it have been just a DM7b5? (or was the minor 3rd implied by the bass or key?)

Uhh, yeah sorry. Apparently my memory wasn't too good. And now I'm actually quite unsure of what the chord was called again. I think it was a: DmMaj7 addsus4 no 5, there we go, hehe.
So basically, you take a Dm(D, F and A), remove the 5 which is the A and you're left with D and F. Add sus4 which is G and finally add the Major 7th which is C#. Final chord consists of(from how it's played on the guitar) D, G, C# and F.

You can check it out(aswell as hear it) here: Guitar Chords @ Chordbook.Com
Select D as root, select m(maj7) as type and then click on the note that has the number "2"(which should remove it) and you're left with "my" chord. You'll also notice that it removed the numbers from the other notes because it doesn't know what chord it is and therefore doesn't know what finger you should use to play it.

Click "Strum" at the bottom to hear it.

Um, well, it might be cheating to use a website rather than doing the exercise to name a chord.....but I use this one all the time as I tend to get songs 2 or 3 days at most before rehersal and figuring out what's what takes too much time without....uh....cheating.

JGuitar

That was actually a pretty nice website! Thanks for the link.
Chord Namer

There's my chord. I guess you can call it DmMaj7bb5 aswell as DmMaj7 addsus4 no 5.
However the D#9sus4 is incorrect since it doesn't include the C#. Also it includes the A which shouldn't be there.

At least if I got my facts straight.. feel free to correct me anyone, I sat down a while trying to figure out this chord.. :p
 

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Wait, my bad. The bass and guitar is outlining the Em and the horn is outlining Am (I got that part mixed up in my previous post.) I don't know what the hell I was listening to. So if you want to know the guitar part, that funky sounding chord is Em.

That chord still spells out an Am9 since it has A C E G B (bass + horns) but, yeah on second listen it's Em.

Just what I said in the first reply. I should have added that I have perfect pitch, but didn't want to sound arrogant :rolleyes: . Concerning the chord name, I wouldn't bother giving it one because 1)I don't think the people that wrote the song where giving it a name and 2)As we can see from other's posts, it's so complicated it's completely unpractical.
 

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Just what I said in the first reply. I should have added that I have perfect pitch, but didn't want to sound arrogant :rolleyes: . Concerning the chord name, I wouldn't bother giving it one because 1)I don't think the people that wrote the song where giving it a name and 2)As we can see from other's posts, it's so complicated it's completely unpractical.

I disagree. Giving chords names - even if they're "unpractical" names - it still allows for the reader to quite easially figure out what notes to play. So saying that it's "completely unpractical" is in my point of view quite faulty. But that's just me :p
 
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