What volume pedal should I get?

[Enc3f4L0]

I wanna get an Ernie Ball volume pedal to go along with my JP6 (I'll be getting it in 3 weeks or so... very excited).

I understand there are different models, but I'm not familiar with them.

Which one would suit me best? I'll be using it with my JP6 and JP7.

Thanks.

 

[jongitarz]

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5266

 

[Enc3f4L0]

Useful thread. Thanks.

I'm still confused about a couple of things.

You stated that the 25k is used when the signal is active (for example, effects loop).

I've never used a volume pedal before, but aren't they usually the first thing you plug your guitar into? Before the amp?

Another thing... what are the advantages of a stereo VP?
As far as I know the signal from the guitar is Mono... Does the Stereo VP just have the ability to pan the signal to different outputs according to the swell? Or is there more to it?

I could use all the help I can get... I'm totally ignorant in this matter.

Since I am using a JP... How does John have his VP set up? And what's the model he is using?

 

[Enc3f4L0]

Anyone care to put in their 2c?

 

[mhorse]

Where you put your volume pedal depends on what you want to achieve. You put it first in your chain to be able to control the output of your guitar (just like the volume knob) with your foot. If you insert it into effects loop, you can control the volume of your amp that way.

 

[beej]

You stated that the 25k is used when the signal is active (for example, effects loop).

That's right. Use it with an active guitar (Luke - EMGs), after a buffered effect (buffer, Boss pedal, etc.) or in an FX loop. Otherwise, use the 250k version.

I've never used a volume pedal before, but aren't they usually the first thing you plug your guitar into? Before the amp?

Not necessarily. For example, you could plug your guitar into a buffer first, to prevent signal loss through cable.

I run mine in an FX loop. That way I can blend in the effects in the loop with the dry signal from the amp. The way Steve Morse does it (though he has a seperate wet amp for that).

Another thing... what are the advantages of a stereo VP?

You can control the volume of two signals at once. E.g., your guitar signal split and routed to two separate amps, etc.

 

[PrpaLe]

You need 250k (regular vp) and try conect her after preamp,before fx

 

[SteveB]

I have a 250k, and I use it in the effects loop 'cause it seems to work better there for me. Just my $.02

 

[Philip]

Where you put your volume pedal depends on what you want to achieve. You put it first in your chain to be able to control the output of your guitar (just like the volume knob) with your foot. If you insert it into effects loop, you can control the volume of your amp that way.

hmm do you have any tips how to do that? I've tried different combinations and the only one which controls the volume of the signal is when I place the VP just after the guitar. I've tried putting it into the loop but I can't make it to act as a "master volume" I can blend effects with it but can't control the overall volume.

Maybe I'm doing sth wrong?

 

[mhorse]

Philip,
it seemed to work fine for me. Maybe you have a parallel effect loop and you're not feeding 100% of the signal through it? What happened when you tried?

 

[Enc3f4L0]

Thanks for all the info guys...

What I'd like ideally is to control the amp's master volume, like mentioned...

I'm just not sure how a Mark IV reacts to the VP in the loop. I don't want it to be an FX blender, thats for sure.

I need it to do volume swells without losing gain, I can always ease out the volume knob if I want a cleaner tone.

 

[Colin]

hmm do you have any tips how to do that? I've tried different combinations and the only one which controls the volume of the signal is when I place the VP just after the guitar. I've tried putting it into the loop but I can't make it to act as a "master volume" I can blend effects with it but can't control the overall volume.

Maybe I'm doing sth wrong?

at least two types of effects loops are usually available. Series and Parallel. Series is the whole signal leaves the amp and goes thru the effect and returns to the amp. Parallel means the sound of the amp and the effect loop are together (think of two channels on a desk) so you could use a EB volume pedal to turn down the effect but the amp sound would remain the same level. Steve Morse uses the later to blend in his delays. Although he runs many effects loops in conjunction with a small mixing desk. Parallel is the only way you can use a volume pedal in the effects loop without turning the overall level down.

 

[Philip]

Philip,
it seemed to work fine for me. Maybe you have a parallel effect loop and you're not feeding 100% of the signal through it? What happened when you tried?

I've just checked in the manual... I have a parallel loop in my amp so that's probably the problem why I can't control the volume in that way. When I connected it as the other pedals in the loop (chorus, delay) it did nothing. With the other effects on it controlled the amount of the effects in the signal...

Colin is also right...

thanks for the info guys,

time to change the amp

Philip

 

[mhorse]

I've just checked in the manual... I have a parallel loop in my amp so that's probably the problem why I can't control the volume in that way. When I connected it as the other pedals in the loop (chorus, delay) it did nothing. With the other effects on it controlled the amount of the effects in the signal...

Colin is also right...

thanks for the info guys,

time to change the amp

Philip

My Mesa had a dial on the back to set the portion of the signal fed through the parallel loop. If you have it, set it to 100%.

 

[Spudmurphy]

http://www.ernieball.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5266

Jon
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Just thought you ought to know.
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