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Which Strap Locks fit stock MM buttons?

<div class="bbWrapper">A great bass player (Phil Chen) told me he uses bass guitar string retainers(they look like strap buttons with a gland problem and are found on the bass headstock) He installs the string retainers, then uses the rubber washer from a bottle of Grolsh beer over that, and it has never let loose on him. He&#039;s crafty, that guy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f60e.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" data-smilie="6"data-shortname=":cool:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Nice Jon, make shift do it yourself ingenuity I like it.<br /> <br /> Hahahahahaha<br /> <br /> Glenn |B)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">If you guys don&#039;t know who Phil is, he plays bass on Blow by Blow (Jeff Beck) and his bass playing can be heard on Rod Stewarts &quot;Do ya Think I&#039;m Sexy&quot; amoung others. I am going to call him tonight and see if he will be at the open house. he is currently playing with the Doors.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">the only way there&#039;s an issue with that &quot;u&quot; breaking...if you put it on the strap UPSIDE DOWN....then the retainer pin on the strapside lock will wear out the strapbutton causing the guitar to fall...I&#039;d really doubt the &quot;u&quot; broke if installed correctly unless you smashed it with a sledgehammer...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">They do twist and turn, that&#039;s the problem. Mine, I guess had worn out, or become weaker over time. One afternoon, it got caught in a funny postion and it bent, letting the guitar crash to the floor. Hard. I&#039;ve got neck pics similar to koog&#039;s JP from my busted Ibanez. The part that bent on the lock, was the part on the strap (the U), but like I said, the U didn&#039;t break, just the outside edges of it bent a little.<br /> <br /> Though, I wouldn&#039;t say it was an issue with them breaking, just to be clear. They worked just fine up until then, and I know people who use them, and have had theirs longer than I did with no problems.</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I have used both the dulop and schaller strap locks and find they both work great. I prefer the schallers but you will probably need to cut the strap hole bigger to keep the strap loooking smooth and not bound up. Oh well just my two cents.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="fsmith" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> fsmith said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I had &quot;heard&quot; that the Schaller&#039;s have broken at the &quot;U&quot; part. I wasn&#039;t sure if that those parts were machined or what we used to call &quot;pot&quot; metal. Although I guess you can break pretty much anything if you put your mind to it... Like I said I probably over analyzed it, though hey, what&#039;s $13, go buy the Dunlops and try them. Liked the ball bearing release mechanism. Go figure. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I have used both Dunlop and Schaller systems in the past, but I use the Schaller strap locks exclusively now. I have been using them for years, and I have never, ever broken one and they&#039;ve suffered much abuse. Actually, I&#039;m looking at a set now, and they&#039;re heavy and hard steel: I can&#039;t imagine breaking these from normal - or abnormal - wear; hell, it would be a serious job to do them any damage with a freaking hammer! I simply can&#039;t credit any anecdotal evidence of failure on these things based on normal usage, unless someone&#039;s taken a chissel to it first. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> <br /> <br /> I did have issues with the set and release of the Dunlop locks though - especially with releasing the lock when I didn&#039;t really want to while idly fingering the button during rehersal &quot;chats&quot; or other pauses. The Dunlops &quot;rattle&quot; more than the Schallers too, ime... <br /> <br /> In the end, both designs have their quirks - either way, you need one, the other or some alternative - no strap locks isn&#039;t an option, unless you like living dangerously...</div>
 
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<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;ve used both, I prefer the Schallers. They seem to be easier to install into the strap. With the Dunlops, you&#039;ve got that little pain in the butt clip to try and snap on. With the Schallers, just screw &#039;em together, and you&#039;re good to go. Schallers for me on everything.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I used to use Schallers and Dunlops. Now I only use Dunlop. Reason being is that on the Schallers the nut would always come loose and then the whole thing would come apart. I&#039;ve never had even one issue with the Dunlops so I decided not to use the Schallers anymore.<br /> <br /> Chad</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">To get back to the original question, the EBMM screw didn&#039;t fit in the Schaller straplocks (the head was too big) - I had to go out and buy a new set of screws (same width) with a smaller head. I may have even had to file down the edges a bit to get it to fit in there...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">you can use the same screws w/ these buttons.......<br /> i&#039;m telling ya they work great.......now go try em !!! unless .....your just dying to spend alot more money.......<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="tommyindelaware" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> tommyindelaware said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i REALLY like these things.....simple , cheap, they look fine, &amp; they work VERY well w/ any strap. i think they should be stock.<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardware,_parts/Electric_guitar:_Strap_buttons/Gripper_Strap_Buttons.html" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Hardwar...tar:_Strap_buttons/Gripper_Strap_Buttons.html</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="c_mac" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> c_mac said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I used to use Schallers and Dunlops. Now I only use Dunlop. Reason being is that on the Schallers the nut would always come loose and then the whole thing would come apart. I&#039;ve never had even one issue with the Dunlops so I decided not to use the Schallers anymore.<br /> <br /> Chad </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Chad is right on this point - the Schallers do eventually work loose and come apart. Before putting my guitar on the strap, I always check that the nut is tight and everything is solid. The only real down side with the Schallers is I always seem to have to make the hole in the strap a little bigger to get it to fit properly</div>
 
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