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carydad

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Hey folks, been around assorted forums for years. Have a ton of gear and a few months back picked up a JP6. I was amazed by it. I even ordered another (JP6 KOA BFR)(from Music gallery in highland park-if you folks could speed that up!) j/k-kinda.

Anyway, for many years I have been a pickup swapper. Went through the duncans, WCR, wolfetone, WB, Holmes, Fralin, BK, etc and my current favorite-sheptone. Sadly, the only way to get sheps into my JP is to scrap the plates from dimarzios and rebuild the sheps with thos. Not a big deal-did it once, probably will again, but is it really that hard to make those pup cavities accept standard pickup legs? It would be cool for an american company to support some small time american pickup winders by easily fitting their pups. Okay, putting away the soap box. Need to go find some dimarzios to scrap.

You make amazing guitars...keep it up!
 

Roubster

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The thing is that the JP Model is based on what HE wants. He has been with DiMarzio for a long time as well as Music Man, and there is no reason to design the guitar for other pickups unless HE asks for it. Its HIS guitar, available to all of us (JP wannabes hahahaha J/K of course). Now the Silhouette can handle whatever you want :D.
 

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to be honest it's not a big deal to retro fit seymour duncan legs for instance in those di marzio shaped holes (I did it once on an ASS), so really doesn't bother me AT ALL :D
 

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A lot of guitar builders, session cats, and shredders choose DiMarzios for their tight response and articulate tone... while metal players choose them for their extremely high-output.

They are great pickups for recording and more "nuanced" playing.
 

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Why not? My preferred brand and thats what JP wants so who is to argue with him:D

Anyways Music Man uses the pups the artists want on sigs and the ones they want on all others, not all are DiMarzio.

SSS AL is Seymor Duncan, MM-90's are Music Man proprietary made by MM, Luke has EMG's so lots of different pups from them:)
 

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Ok, help me out here, what are you guys talking about? DiMarzio feet? Do you mean the part on each side where the mounting screws thread into? What is so different about them?
Sorry for not understanding?
 

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Ok, help me out here, what are you guys talking about? DiMarzio feet? Do you mean the part on each side where the mounting screws thread into? What is so different about them?
Sorry for not understanding?

This is an average DiMarzio

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The part of the baseplate that gets screwed to the body/ pickguard/ mounting ring is triangular (and so is the part of the wood routed away to accommodate it on surface mount guitars)

This is 99% of other company's pickups.

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That part is square, and will not fit unmodified on a surface mount guitar that has been routed specifically for teh DiMarzios.
 
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emanon

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The thing is that the JP Model is based on what HE wants. He has been with DiMarzio for a long time as well as Music Man, and there is no reason to design the guitar for other pickups unless HE asks for it. Its HIS guitar, available to all of us (JP wannabes hahahaha J/K of course). Now the Silhouette can handle whatever you want :D.

Thank YOU for the good explanation. I think that YOU did a good job with YOUR typing.
 

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JP chooses Dimarzio. Its sort of a chicken vs the egg....should we make the guitar in anticipation for all other pickup mfrs or should the pickup company make things to fit John's design? I really am focused on providing firstly John the guitar he needs to make his music and then offer that EXACT guitar (I did some typing for you guys!~) to the public.
 

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I think the OP isn't just referring to the angled legs. It's also the heights of the legs that matter. Most DiMarzio are short legged pups. Most PAF clones (Sheptone included) are long legged pups. Winders like Bareknuckle and (I think) Lollar offer both long and short versions.

Wouldn't Sheptone be able to offer the same?
 

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Ok, thanks for the explanation. Cannot one take a small grinder (or metal snips) and trim away the squarness to make it fit a Dimarzio routed cavity?

Yes, that and swapping baseplates are pretty easy BUT can void the return-and-swap-for-a-different-model policy that almost all pickup makers have these days.
 

jamminjim

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well that is sho-enuf true, no doubt. kind of makes ya wonder about this whole scenario, because this physical atrribute has no effect on sound what-so-ever......
 

ShaneV

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well that is sho-enuf true, no doubt. kind of makes ya wonder about this whole scenario, because this physical atrribute has no effect on sound what-so-ever......

Yup, and the smaller feet take less metal which is good for the environment and for the cost to the end consumer, I wish more companies had them.
 

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What about the 25th/Reflex guitars with the pickup rings? Are those pickups easily replaced or do they have a custom baseplate as well? Not that I would change them, I'm just curious.

Tony
 
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